Ma ma facts / She was indeed, pregnant...

[SQ]

I'm not seeing the pear shape of late pregnancy in those new pictures.

 

[theratlady]

i am so confused! is this girl 9wks old too? ok yup went back to reread posts, there is no way this girl had two litters unless she was pregnant at 3wks old!! wtf?
and brittany you said she had her babies dec? lol

 

[Tarah]

no the girl is older than the boy is. i'd say about 12-14 weeks of age.
when i guestimated her age, i only had a quick glance at her, and assumed her and the boy were the same size. but she's a fair bit larger than him.

thoes pictures arn't very good, no offence brittany.
take it with the flash off, and front on.

she's actually really big.
SQ, she obviously isnt far into her pregnancy, she only had the babies about a week and a half ago.

 

[brittanyfork]

and brittany you said she had her babies dec? lol

No? She had them a little over a week ago, haha.

 

[lilratsy43]

From the most recent pics she does not look pregenant at all, but that could just be the pics.

What if this girl lied about her having babies? That is a definate possiblity. After you gave her all the info, she got scared of trying to raise them and just gave them to you.

PS they are an adorable pair!!! I am soo happy you and Tarah were able to help them out if a horrid situation. Also, I'm going to have my fingers crossed that she is not preggers (even if you guys think that is impossible..lol)

 

[theratlady]

see im not crazy!!

She gave birth to her other babies on the 12th of December and on the 23rd her pups all passed away.

So I'm thinking she got pregnant somewhere in that time?

I'll get more pictures of her up now soon...

 

[theratlady]

if you mean sept instead of dec that means she is 2 wks pregnant and due in 6-10 days time.

something is really off with this woman and rats as ALL babies would not just die at 10/11 days of age. very very odd.

 

[ryelle]

If she never seperated the male and female on the 12th September when the apparent first litter was born like she said she did, could the female fall pregnant again straight away or would it take a few days? (i know that animals and people are more fertile after giving birth)

 

[Tarah]

she could get pregnant again right way.

 

[SQ]

If she is really big, then she is much further along in her pregnancy then you think or there is something else going on. The last week of pregnancy is when they gain a huge amount of weight and have that unmistakeable pear shaped belly. If you are positive she is early in pregnancy and she is large, she needs to see a vet experienced with rats asap to make sure this isn't a health problem instead of ( or in addition to) a pregnancy.

As theratlady said, rats will become pregnant within 24 to 48 hours after giving birth. Usually there is delayed implantation to give the first litter time enough to be weaned so they can survive. A second back to back litter can be born up to 28 (to 30?) days after the birth of the first litter.

If you can believe what this person said, your rattie is likely 14 or 15 days pregnant. If there was no delay in embryo implantation into the walls of the uterus, then she is in her last week of pregnancy and babies could be born in 6 days.
As theratlady said, there is more to this story that you are unaware of. A 10/11 day old litter doesn't just all die.

 

[Tarah]

I know.
I personally don't know this girl, it's someone brittany went to school with.

I'm leaning towards what lilratsy said, that the girl got scared and didnt want them anymore.

but, apparantly she knew exactly how many she had (12). I don't know, this is a frustrating situation.

Brittany wants to buy an FN and neuter the boy staying with me. (I'm kind of torn about this because i don't want him to bond with Zeke and Warren, and then be seperated, so i dont know what to do there) When this girl gives birth, she is going to be in a bigger pickel because she doesn't know what she's doing with them (she really doesn't have a choice but to keep them) i can't take anymore into my house. i don't have the space.

This is just a really sticky situation.

 

[SQ]

The female is a Variegated Sky Blue with a head spot, and about 9 weeks old and the boy is a Smeeze dumbo, same age.

The female is pregnant (again) and the boy is here with me.

Family Portrait :giggle: My boys love him, their cuddled up on the back of my neck right now. I think he loves them too! :giggle:

Awwww, the boy looks so happy with his new friends. They look so cute together.
I imagine they are becoming closely bonded ... are they getting along as well as they appear to be in the pictures? You must be very happy at such an easy intro.
He must be relaxing now that he is in a safe place, has friends, good food, etc. in his new home. What is his name?

Hope you keep him as he is bonded with your boys and adjusting to his new home.
It would be a shame to tare him away from that.
Brittany is going to have her hands full with a new litter and will get very attached to the babies once they are born.

 

[brittanyfork]

Sorry, theratlady, I made a mistake, haha

Well, if Tara would have told me that, I won't get him neutered and he can stay with Tara with Zeke and Warren.
I just felt like a burden because it's just one more rat she has to take care of, because she's got so many.
He can stay down there with you, Tara
It's not like I'll never see him though, haha. I'm at your place everyday.

I really have not a clue what to do with the litter...
It's so hard to find homes for them.
It was hard enough finding homes for Luna's girls.

My Mom is on the verge of making me get rid of them all
She said "...Theres no rat pregnant here is there?"
I lied and said no.

I just don't know what to do. How am I gonna re-home the new kids on the way?
Why does she have to be pregnant? :gaah:

I'll try to get better pictures.

 

[Tarah]

We can ask the woman who took Lunas two girls if she'd be interested in a could more baby friends for them.

We should start looking for homes soon, so we're not stuck in a bad situation when they're older.

Theres a number of people on BK with rats, maybe we could ask there?

 

[brittanyfork]

I am terrified of the population on BK.

Not to sound like "oh young people can't take care of animals"
But the majority of BK users are 14-18 years old.
And they probably would say yes to having a rat "because they're cool"
I'd tell them what they need to know. But I really do not trust them at all.

And a lot of people on BK own snakes and lizards that eat rats. We could ask, but get them to fill out the application you had.
The profiles on BK would be good too, they actually tell a lot about a person, even if their profile is a bunch of lies, if you know what I mean.

 

[Tarah]

I mean in the pets thread. There are many people who own 2+ rats.

As far as you worrying about homes, thats where adoption forms come in.

We can post the babies on the rescues website mentioned in my sig.
And ask potention owners to fill out the adoption form, as i've done with every baby i've adopted out so far.

So if you post on BK, include the rescues website, and make sure they know form completion is mandatory.

EDIT: For anyone who's totally lost with these last few posts, BK is Blue Kaffee, and it's like facebook but only for Newfoundlanders.

 

[brittanyfork]

Great news!!!

As it turns out, Molly isn't pregnant.
She hasn't gotten any bigger at all this week, if not she's gotten smaller!

I guess she was still a bit chunky after her last pregnancy.
I'm so happy.

It's so weird because from some angles she looks pregnant and others she doesn't
But it's such a relief

 

[user 1405]

Well, that's some good news. However, as painful as it'd be, you shouldn't just run out and grab someone's pregnant pet rat because they can't take care of the babies, especially if you're in a situation where you don't know what you'll do with them. If anything, you should tell that person that s/he should turn them over to the local SPCA/Humane Society. Atleast they'll get looked after.

I know that we all love our pets and hate to see others in precarious positions, but we also have to be realistic. Especially for those who still live with Family, if you don't have the means of taking care of extra pets, then why are you taking them in? In my case, I can easily afford my 3 plus another few on my salary as I'm a government employee who earns 35+k in a year. However, I don't have the space for additional cages at this point in time, nor do I have the ability to move them all once I get my new place in a few months. As much as I'd like to raise a ratty family myself, I'm gonna hold off until I'm able to do so and have the appropriate place to do so as well.

I'm not being mean spirited or rude here, but I'm a practical person. I already own 2 birds (and sometimes taking care of my brother's 2 love birds) and 3 rats in a 900 sq. ft appartment and room's at a slight premium, I just can't imagine having a wall of cages, a ton of food and other essentials floating around my place just because I can afford it, I can't stand tripping over a pile of stuff.

 

[Tarah]

Well, that's some good news. However, as painful as it'd be, you shouldn't just run out and grab someone's pregnant pet rat because they can't take care of the babies, especially if you're in a situation where you don't know what you'll do with them. If anything, you should tell that person that s/he should turn them over to the local SPCA/Humane Society. Atleast they'll get looked after.

I know that we all love our pets and hate to see others in precarious positions, but we also have to be realistic. Especially for those who still live with Family, if you don't have the means of taking care of extra pets, then why are you taking them in? In my case, I can easily afford my 3 plus another few on my salary as I'm a government employee who earns 35+k in a year. However, I don't have the space for additional cages at this point in time, nor do I have the ability to move them all once I get my new place in a few months. As much as I'd like to raise a ratty family myself, I'm gonna hold off until I'm able to do so and have the appropriate place to do so as well.

I'm not being mean spirited or rude here, but I'm a practical person. I already own 2 birds (and sometimes taking care of my brother's 2 love birds) and 3 rats in a 900 sq. ft appartment and room's at a slight premium, I just can't imagine having a wall of cages, a ton of food and other essentials floating around my place just because I can afford it, I can't stand tripping over a pile of stuff.

I'm not being mean spirited or rude here, but I'm a practical person. I already own 2 birds (and sometimes taking care of my brother's 2 love birds) and 3 rats in a 900 sq. ft appartment and room's at a slight premium, I just can't imagine having a wall of cages, a ton of food and other essentials floating around my place just because I can afford it, I can't stand tripping over a pile of stuff.

First of all, please read the whole thread, you obviously do not know the full story. Don't make assumptions. You have no room to say that Brittany cannot afford these girls, she has a perfect means of taking care of them until they can find homes, and me and her will be able to care for them, even if they are not adopted.

I can easily afford my 3 plus another few on my salary as I'm a government employee who earns 35+k in a year.

I really don't care. Don't brag about how much you make. No matter how much someone makes, they can always adjust their expenses and income to accomidate their pets.

Brittany didn't know this girl was pregnant when she got her and her little boyfriend. She took them because her friend was keeping a boy and a girl together, and the girl became pregnant. The babies all past away, most likely due to the wrong care. Brittany rescued these two, because if she didn't the male and female would have stayed together until they had homes, and resulting in the female being pregnant again.

If we had told the girl to bring them to the local shelter, they would have 72 hours to be adopted, before they are euthenized. So really? Bring them somewhere where they have three days? Or PUT them somewhere where they can have an amazing life, with an amazing rattie family, and an awesome owner. At "at least they'll have a good life"? What exactly is that supposed to mean, Brittany takes awesome care of her 8 girls; best of the best. And she had the space/time and room in her heart for a new one. She DID NOT KNOW that the male and female were put back into the same cage after the babies past away.

I just can't imagine having a wall of cages, a ton of food and other essentials floating around my place

To be brutally honest, you are one person, and that's one persons opinon. I have a wall of cages in my house, and i have lots of food, toys, and litter in the room. Just because you wouldn't like it doesn't mean no one else would. I may have a lot of cages, and everything i mentioned, but it is all kept tidy and clean.

I'm not being mean spirited or rude here

No, but your assuming and insulting.

 

[brittanyfork]

Uh, Tarah pretty much got this covered.

But I had no other choice but to take them.
I was too afraid that she would sell these rats to a bad home. She wasn't taking very good care of them herself.

I would much rather take care of them myself knowing they have a good home.

It's also a little inaproriate to post how much money you make on the internet, where you have no idea whos going to read it.
Identity theft is a terrilble thing.