Toofer Jane - swollen face, eye is bleeding

[SQ]

She is on baytril and clindamycin bid for 4 weeks.

 

[jorats]

I've not heard of that, doesn't show up on google either.

 

[SQ]

Sorry, wrong spelling ... corrected above now.
I should know better than to try to read the itty bitty print on the bottom of perscription bottles

Had previously tried her on baytril and metronidizole for two weeks.
Thought it was working but the smell return after the antibiotics were stoped.

 

[jorats]

The Clindamycin sounds like a good one. Keeping my fingers crossed!

 

[SQ]

Thanks, I'm hoping for the best.
Toofer Jane was suposed to be spayed on Monday but rescheduled because of whatever is going on with her. Hoping I can get her spayed Dec 8.

 

[SQ]

Just an update ...
Well, that didn't work
So tried her on Clorpalm for 2 weeks ... she is still the same ...
Whatever it is, it doesn't seem to bother her ... but I do smell an odor when I sniff her breath (yup, I lead a very dull life LOL ... )
How can a vet tell if there is an infection in the bone?
He did do xrays which is how we discovered the missing teeth roots.
I have a vet appointment/checkup with my vet in NB on Tuesday, for Toofer, my older girls and everyone with CHF.

 

[jorats]

My vet is able to tell by the feel of the mass but it can only be verified with a postmortem.
What about Clavamox?

 

[SQ]

Tried clavamox earlier but can try again ... have 2 others on it at present.

She doesn't have a mass that we have found.
Maybe she just has very very bad breath?

 

[Riana]

God, it's been so long since I've posted here.

I just had a thought, but I'm not sure if this would be the same in rats since they don't vomit. Could the foul odor be coming from her stomach? I know that can be the case with cats and dogs.

 

[jorats]

The odor could be from the throat, keep smelling her at different times and see if it smells like an abscess or just like bad breath.

 

[theratlady]

if clindamycin dont work then im skeptical that anything will. poor little girl shes done well though with mush food!!

 

[joolzratbag]

I hope she is doing OK now SQ!

We have a bunny at the shelter that has a very deformed bottom jaw. Because of this her bottom teeth stick out. We had the teeth trimmed once at our local vets but then contacted Dr. Parks who is a rabbit specialist. She said trimming a rabbits teeth was extremely cruel, especially done at home by people who didn't do it right. That the rabbit experienced extreme pain and could get infection very easily. She said that it was less cruel to remove the teeth......
She seemed very knowledgeable and so I thought I would pass this info along.
Not sure if it is the same in rats .....

How are teeth trimmed over there? I know there are some vets in the UK that consider trimming rat's teeth by clipping them to be too traumatic and dangerous for them - they recommend burring them with a special tool as the best method of trimming - or sometimes removal instead. Here's a couple of stories:-

http://www.cavyrescue.co.uk/rat-article20.shtml
http://www.cavyrescue.co.uk/rat-article17.shtml

 

[PiedPiper]

My vet doesn't trim teeth by clipping them, she lightly sedates the rattie so they don't struggle and files them down with (I believe) some type of dental drill.

 

[ryelle]

My last rat got his teeth trimmed once - the bottom ones. And the vet did it with what looked like a dog nail clipper. My poor boy screamed. He immediately ran over to me with his eyes wide, ears back, and climbed straight up my front and hid in my hair

 

[SQ]

Since none of the vets will remove the teeth, I use small nail clippers. Not a great idea but the same thing the vets do although they do sedate the rat first. Many of the Liverpool ratties have teeth problems as their lower jaw is shorter than the upper (according to the vet) so their teeth will not wear properly. The teeth do not grow straight either, but curve to the sides.
Without trimming they would be unable to eat and their teeth would grow through their tongues and the sides of their mouths.
So, while it isn't recomended, it is the best I can do for them.

 

[ryelle]

Can anybody possibly link or take a picture of a rat with perfect teeth, a rat with wonky or not straight teeth (where they could cause a problem with length), and one where the teeth have been removed or fallen out?

I'm just curious to see

 

[jorats]

This is a great site for teeth trimming and pics too.

 

[jennifervb]

My last rat got his teeth trimmed once - the bottom ones. And the vet did it with what looked like a dog nail clipper. My poor boy screamed. He immediately ran over to me with his eyes wide, ears back, and climbed straight up my front and hid in my hair

Oh God, the poor little fuzz bundle.

My boy Jerry (died in 2007) got his incisors trimmed by my exotic animal specialist and had absolutely no problems.

This was quite a feat because Jerry was usually one to take off running at the slightest discomfort.

Did you get the impression that the vet was experienced with rodents and their treatment? My vet said that a vet needs to have experience with the animals he/she is treating and that you can't use the same methods for a rat that you would use for a dog.

 

[joolzratbag]

My vet doesn't trim teeth by clipping them, she lightly sedates the rattie so they don't struggle and files them down with (I believe) some type of dental drill.

That's the burring tool I mention above, less risk of causing damage than clipping.

 

[joolzratbag]

Can anybody possibly link or take a picture of a rat with perfect teeth, a rat with wonky or not straight teeth (where they could cause a problem with length), and one where the teeth have been removed or fallen out?

I'm just curious to see

Pics and case studies of malocclusion here:
http://ratguide.com/health/digestive/malocclusion.php

Here's pics of perfect teeth:-

n.b. - they can open their bottom teeth out into a V shape - this is normal too.