Seriously 3 bleeding girls! It is utterly crappy luck 7/7

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I am trying to get my 3 older girls spayed on the 22nd two is for sure, but I want skittles tumor removed first. which hopefully will be done on friday.

Loki chases them around too but Templeton must still put it in, and when they are neutered they dont penetrate? Al and ludo dont touch them, but i have had nothing but fights lately, not sure what the deal is with that group. but it is making me question tobys death.

I meant to include that in the last post and i forgot sorry for the two post spams.
 
I've seen my neutered boys mount but no penetration. Well, it looks like no penetration. I seen once an intact male retract from penetration and he has long penis. He then cleans it after the mounting. Having spayed girls, I don't get the chance to observe it, males usually leave the spayed girls alone after a few days.
 
Well he always cleans it off after so I would guess they still do penetrate, Loki the one time he did do it did the same. Now when Bart humps the boys, he dont do the cleaning so maybe they are a bit smarter than it appears when mating :laugh4:

Skittles has blood still on the cage. Waiting for the vet to call me, since it is such a difficult question i want them to be able to read it all rather than me having to explain it all to them.

I totally will fight like hell to get the rest of the girls spayed. I am going to call her soon, I want the whole 6 remaining girls done asap.

He has to have some sort of infection or something that is going to the girls. I cannot tell by looking at him, it seems to have difficulty coming out of the sheath but I cannot see anything or feel anything that is infection related.
 
aren't they allowed to have sex after they are neutered? COME ON YOU GUYS! That's hardly fair!!! Templeton is a GUY!

Don't rob him of his right to court his ladies.... :giggle: :laugh4:
 
I don't know about how it works for rats, I may be all wrong, but this is my personal experience with my 3 male dogs:
they are neutered BUT that doesn't keep them from being "interested" and flat out mating!
think of it as a male person that has had a vasectomy :)
 
I think the fact that he still look like he has testicles make ya wonder and scratch your head LOL


I have the appointment for Isis, Bindi and now Skittles on 07/22
Mally, and the school girls Lucy and Eleanor, 08/5/11 so hopefully that will leave me with 6 boys to do.. which i am hoping to get them all done in one sitting so i can be done with this part of it.

Hopefully Friday afternoon when I pick skittles up from her spay, i can have an answer about Templeton he will make the trip with me so that we can get down to the bottom of this bleeding with the girls. If all else fails, pretty soon they wont have any uterus's left so one way or another the bleeding will stop.
 
Dr. J is who neutered my boys. in march.

Dr. Hatch is the one who will be doing my spays, my original vet who moved to a spay clinic only she is from kryder vet clinic.

Dr E and Dr kryder are the new general care vets i have same office that hatch was at, and they are also the ones who will remove tumors if needed.

First of all the vet that did the neuters was highly recommended from the small animal rescue. i looked online, no complaints. I asked questions, she sent me a detailed email about how she does it. I didn't just pick blindly.

It turns out something went astray, i am beyond ticked off. I found skittles giving birth last night. Two babies passed. Today she is doing well, so we are doing her spay tomorrow and lump removal probably at the same time. The vet believes that there may still be a baby in there but i just got home from work and she had no new bleeding nor any babies. She also isn't bleeding at this time. She is out running on my desk like nothing happened. thank god. She is even playing :) But I wont leave her out for long, I dont want her to over do it


3 vets there confirmed that they feel as if they have at least one if not two testicles in there. But right now i have to work on my girls and see what is happening. or if they are in fact pregnant. I am freaking out to say the least.

I was up till around 2ish watching her. I didnt get much sleep when i did finally fall asleep. I loaded up my car with 3 girls, and 4 boys in two separated cages at 5:30 am and went for help. I got in there in tears telling her i am not sure what is going on, or how this is happening. Dr. E asked me this morning if i was sure these were the rats i took in. of course they are, i only have two gray males and I know i had this group done because of my failed intro with dopey. Finley was done as well, Which i still need to feel him but he is with boys so tomorrow. 3 of the vets there said they feel like testicles.

Bindi is round, but is always round so I am not sure what to think. My boys are in a cage by themselves. 3 girls are in one cage and 3 in the other, Skittles is still in her maternity cage. Which was my sewing box, till i dumped it all out in a panic.


I called the vet that did the neuters when I left kryder. To warn them that I am on my way, and I am pissed. I explained my boys were neutered and they feel as if they still have testicles and my girl was giving birth last night.

I go in there I expressed as nicely as I could that i am upset, that I have fought a long time to not have them happen in my house and it has. I explained that I want to know what these two testicle feeling sacs are on my boy and how they would still be there. I told her I am now on a watch with 6 girls and I am trying not to point fingers. I told her I expect a call today with an explanation as to why i have a rat in labor, and why I have a boy with testicles after i paid to have them removed. she was nice even when I was borderline breaking point.

She called me back talking about entropic tissue, I guess magically since the 4 boys are related a tissue can grow back, and it either could or could not have the spice to make babies. This is according to her and the PNC clinic vet school the one she spoke to. Ironically the one my child just attended for camp for vets :(

So apparently, my 4 boys have amazing testosterone, it is enough to magically make testicles re appear.......Guinness book here I come. They believe this because they are related, do i believe it? I am not sure what to think.

I know my boys had neuter abscess so I know they were cut open.
I want to know what is in here, he will have some sort of surgery to tell me that. All my boys will have something done to figure this out. I am not sure how that will happen,I will ask tomorrow. When I take skittles in for her spay and tumor removal.

Magically Dr. J is offering to spay all my girls (6 of them), and explore on my boys. Funny dont you think?


There is more but i am exhausted and I cannot think straight.
 
OMG peggy!!!...
this is...just...OMG!!...I read your post 3 times and still CANNOT wrap my head over all of this...

{{{HUGS}}

this is all I can offer, I'm just speechless
 
This is finley, you can tell he was neutered, done the same day by the same vet.

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the boys appear to be neutered when they walk, you can tell they are gone, no appearance of a intact male, testicles do not come out when they are hot, nor do they go up when they are cold, they are not hanging down like a intact male. what ever this is, it is close to the body, not like an actual testicle but it feels just like a testicle if you grab it. You can really see it when you flip him over, it appears to be testicles that are close to the body. you can tell it is a bit of skin and something but not a typical testicle.

I cannot wrap my head around this at all.
 
Hmmm, I don't know what think of that explanation from the vet.
I'm just glad Skitles is ok... Lots of healing vibes for all your ratties!
 
SQ said:
Sounds like a crock.
This hasn't happened to boys neutered by other vets.

Hope you and all the ratties are ok

:hugs:
That is what i think, but I cannot understand why finley looks so different yet their testicle look different from before.

Sounds like something off the twilight zone, or a syfy movie.

"Attack of the regenerating testicles"


It is has my mind blown away every thing that I know to be true has been twisted. I am really a mess mentally thinking about this lol


That explanation was unreal, i was sitting here listening to her and i am like that doesnt make sense but my head isn't working fast. I didn't want to give her anything either so I really just listened to her

i have a call into a teaching school vet, hoping they can guide me in the right direction.

I swear i will hire an attorney if i have to.

Tomorrow on for a spay and hopefully tumor, i dont want her to go through anything else, i am terrified for her. this has to be a shock to the system then to go through two surgeries, I cannot do that to her.


I dont know what to do. I am utterly confused, I have a lot to figure out with my other girls right now and now my boys. I dont even know where to start.
 
One of my boys had a neuter abscess and it felt like a testicle for a while. Then it disappeared on its own after a couple of months.

All I can say is, it boggles the mind.....
 

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