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Baytril is never injected as it can cause health issues :(

It is unfortunate that the vet will not put him on baytril + azithromycin (10 mg/Ib) + doxy - orally twice a day
48 hrs may not be long enough, a steroid and a bronchodilator might help
amoxicillin is good for secondary infections - secondary infections kill very fast

The vet could also try Lasix or benazepril to see if it is a heart problem because there are meds that can help that

Hopefully Lilspaz68 will respond
Exactly, Amoxicillan is good for secondary infections and those can kill extremely fast! As in, overnight!
 
Oof--rats can be challenging to get medication down. I tried the swaddle and swallow method which ended up in meds on him, me, and the floor. Then I reckoned that getting meds down is better than none so I started mixing the meds in with a dollop of pie filling--I had good results with mixed berry, cherry, and esp blueberry. They eventually got wise to that and I started injecting blueberries with meds--they ate those for a while until they got wise again. For the last few days, I've been mixing the meds in a dollop of whipped cream which they've been scarfing down easily. None of these are the most nutritious things they've ever eaten, but if it gets the medicine down with minimal trauma and helps them feel better and avoid pneumonia, it's worth it to me.
 
I give meds to my guys mixed into baby cereal. I use rice formula ,dont make it too thick, then I mix in a little chocolate or vanilla ensure. Works every time.
 
Oof--rats can be challenging to get medication down. I tried the swaddle and swallow method which ended up in meds on him, me, and the floor. Then I reckoned that getting meds down is better than none so I started mixing the meds in with a dollop of pie filling--I had good results with mixed berry, cherry, and esp blueberry. They eventually got wise to that and I started injecting blueberries with meds--they ate those for a while until they got wise again. For the last few days, I've been mixing the meds in a dollop of whipped cream which they've been scarfing down easily. None of these are the most nutritious things they've ever eaten, but if it gets the medicine down with minimal trauma and helps them feel better and avoid pneumonia, it's worth it to me.
I usually use Ensure, but once they get either very old or very sick, they inexplicably won't take their meds anymore if they can taste them, I think maybe they equate the bitter taste with a poison, and being ill or old, they become much more discerning about what they risk ingesting. Then I go the whipped cream route as well, which is my last resort and usually works. If it's still a no-go, I mix in some liquified sugar, which takes away the bitterness.
 
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Be VERy careful when giving meds directly from syringe since rats have no reflux or ability to vomit and can choke to death pretty easily!!! Do your homework and get the exact proper method. The lesser amount the safer youll be. But you do not administer it the same as you would a dog. Just do not force it, he has to be able to swallow it himself, stroking his neck is not how its done. Personally, ive only done it once, the very next time my gf gave it and her rat choked to death. And if they have breathing issues from a uri? Thats when it gets really dangerous!
This is why it's important to put it in the cheek, not down their throats. I'm so sorry you and your gf had a bad experience, that must have been traumatic.
 
The best way I've found to give them liquid medication is by soaking it into a small piece of bread. They usually eat it right up!
 
Hey, I don't think you have her on the correct dose of Baytril, but because she is on 2 other meds, there could be a synergistic effect that I am unfamiliar with. But 0.1ml only once a day just seems to be very low, especially when I always see that antibiotic at 2X/day. So that would mean unless your Baytril is twice as long acting, as the liquid I am familiar with, your dose is only effective for 12 hours, and that is seriously not good. That said, you might want to look into it. What is the mg/mL of yout Baytril? As for whether or not she is experiencing a high amount of discomfort or is in any distress, you can get an idea by how she's behaving compared to like about 6 months ago, how she's eating and drinking, if she is active or not, wants to socialize with you or other rats, those sorts of things. Personally, if my rats are I'll with advanced URI issues, and 2+ years old, and are behaving much differently or not active or sociable, but are still eating and drinking and NOT gasping, then I allow them to continue their treatment plan until they either stip eating and drinking, at which point I try pushing Ensure to them just in case it's a temporary flare up, or, experience any gasping whatsoever, at which time I monitor them very closely, give the last ditch effort meds, like nebulizer, and any other bronchial dialators (sp?) and if there improvement, I start anti-inflammatory med(s) and steroids after conferring with my vet, whom I have already called to make aware of my probable forthcoming emergency visit. Often the gasping will subside, but just as often it will continue to rear its uglt head, especially if they become stressed, excited, winded, exhausted, or frightened. You absolutely must keep them calm and relaxed. No overly active cage mates, no loud noises, no stressful situations. Anyway, usually they can survive (key word here since their lifestyle has taken an obvious blow) for days, weeks, even months. I just buried a foster who had reached this point, list tons of weight (because I inexcusably missed it) and stopped eating. I put him on Ensure at all times (filled his bowl whenever it was empty) and several more meds, and he gained most of his weight back and learned to live very sedentary and still holds the record at almost 6 months without solid food or water, just Ensure and meds!!! He did very little but for when I gave him loving on time every day for as long as I could. Eventually his breathing became too siffidiff, he couldn't get enough oxygen for basic automatic bodily functions, and I had to let him go, but he never did lose his weight again since he drank tons of Ensure and ate very small amounts of soggy foods. His gasping only came back a few days prior to my having him PTS, and once the customary 24 hours of rebounding allotment time passed and then a Sunday passed with no improvement, and consideicon he had been barely living for months already, I did not waste any time getting him PTS to avoid a horrible suffocation. He actually did get frantic on Sunday night, so I stayed up with him keeping him as calm as possible, but he was gasping pretty bad and had a hard time relaxing. He eventually fell asleep with his head raised up and propped up on a food of blanket to help him get air in, and I was at my vets waiting for them to open the doors, which they already knew and had arrived early for me. Ok, I've rambled on much too long now. But yeah, advanced URI is a horrible disease, you gotta monitor them 24/7, and as soon as you see the telltale raised head and open mouth breathing, you know it's nearly always the beginning of the end when they're over 2 years of age.But they can definitely live for awhile more quite comfortably provided you are able to give them intense hospice care and be around more often than not to be sure they don't go into respiratory distress when you aren't around. It's such a horrifying death,cyou just can't chance it unless you can 100% be available for them. Best luck to your girl if she's still with you.


Not sure. The vet gave her that and the 2 other meds so I’m assuming that may be why. She used to be on a higher dose age before starting the 2 other medications. She is doing alright. She’s not stressed or anything. I give her meds in the morning with some baby food as she will gladly eat that. She is very sluggish and quite if she doesn’t have her meds especially the baytil (say if I have ran out) she still eats like a pig and drinks enough fluids. I make sure she does. She’s not losing any weight or anything. She’s had her active days then says where she’s not. But I think that would be fine considering she is sick. I’m just so proud of how long she has survived considering he gave her a few weeks. She’s never gasped for air or anything like that. Just very loud sound, but it’s not too bad anymore. As I said she has her days. She’s my only one so she doesn’t have any other cage mates annoying her or anything like that.

Sorry to hear about everything that you went through. My gosh is stressed me out so much in situations like those. Especially when the vets around my area are quite uninformed about rats. I’m normally with her in my bed or let her run around my bedroom floor majority of the day. The only time she’s really in her cage is overnight, when she’s eating or I’m not at home. Yes she is still with me cuddling into me right now. :)
 
Very sad update, beautiful william has been put to sleep tonight. he’s been improving over this past week but i got home to find him stood gasping for breath and had to rush him to the vet where i let him go forever :( i’m horrified and devastated but i couldn’t let him continue to suffer so much especially when he’s on so much medication. i’ve never lost a rat before and i really love them like my children
 

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