Adella's Tumour Removal Today - GREAT Update :D

[ChrisK]

fingers & paws crossed...

 

[hopefloats]

Finger crossed for her.

 

[EDK]

*crosses everything*

 

[lilspaz68]

Done, she's up and eating baby cereal.

Dr Munn thinks it was a thyroid tumour rather than mammary but was able to get it all.

 

[Godmother]

:joy: Kisses to Adela when she gets home. :heart:

 

[SQ]

Good news!

 

[ChrisK]

Done, she's up and eating baby cereal.

Dr Munn thinks it was a thyroid tumour rather than mammary but was able to get it all.

So glad she's doing well! Excellent!

Is there any further implication of thyroid vs. mammary tumour?

 

[Dahlas]

oh great news...

 

[lilspaz68]

Done, she's up and eating baby cereal.

Dr Munn thinks it was a thyroid tumour rather than mammary but was able to get it all.

So glad she's doing well! Excellent!

Is there any further implication of thyroid vs. mammary tumour?

from my research it looks like thyroid adenomas are what it likely was which means it was benigh, but as long as he feels he got it all we should hopefully not get a reoccurence. :joy:

She looks a bit shell-shocked, but the incision is a LOT smaller than I expected!

She was turning when I took this pic

 

[Godmother]

More kisses to her. Hope she is soon feeling better.

 

[Joanne]

So if a person has a thyroid tumour and the glad is removed/destroyed, they have to take a thyroid replacement. What are the implications for rats?

 

[hopefloats]

Poor baby. Give her lots of good puffs to eat.

 

[lilspaz68]

So if a person has a thyroid tumour and the glad is removed/destroyed, they have to take a thyroid replacement. What are the implications for rats?

Well it seems they have different paramters for animals?

I saw this for dogs

http://www.veterinarycancer.com/thyroid.html

If tumors are freely moveable on physical examination, surgical removal is recommended. If surgical margins are free of disease and tumors are <20 cc’s in volume, further therapy is not advised.

If tumors are fixed or invasive, preoperative radiation therapy followed by surgical excision if the mass responds to radiation is recommended. In cases where no more surgery is possible, chemotherapy is then advised.
We have also palliatively used thyroid hormone supplementation in dogs with normal thyroid levels to suppress the production of TSH, thought to stimulate tumor growth.

 

[mamarat]

Sending healing vibes to your girl.

 

[Joanne]

So if a person has a thyroid tumour and the glad is removed/destroyed, they have to take a thyroid replacement. What are the implications for rats?

Well it seems they have different paramters for animals?

I saw this for dogs

http://www.veterinarycancer.com/thyroid.html

If tumors are freely moveable on physical examination, surgical removal is recommended. If surgical margins are free of disease and tumors are <20 cc’s in volume, further therapy is not advised.

If tumors are fixed or invasive, preoperative radiation therapy followed by surgical excision if the mass responds to radiation is recommended. In cases where no more surgery is possible, chemotherapy is then advised.
We have also palliatively used thyroid hormone supplementation in dogs with normal thyroid levels to suppress the production of TSH, thought to stimulate tumor growth.

Would Adella need to be on Synthroid after the surgery? How do they cope with the lack of normal hormone?

 

[lilspaz68]

They aren't doing anything...Dr Munn thinks its a thyroid tumour but its not confirmed.

 

[lilspaz68]

I did a bunch of googling and found that with guineapigs they just remove it and no thyroid supplement is given. Maybe they just don't do this for smalls? And we didn't get a cytology done, so I guess I will just watch her carefully. So far so good She's happy to be home.

Keiran, her passive Companion rat is not doing so well though

He came home frightened and nervous and limp. He's 21 months old and is acting like he has HED. He was obsessively pulling at fleece and fabric like he had pica from an opiate. he was terrified to be back with his girls, where I thought he would relax. I let him stay there a few hours, came back and he was still lying flat and submissive in the base. I opened the door and he ran. So I pulled out my boy and this is when I saw all these un-Keiran-like behaviours. He ended up bolting and has disappeared into the Black Hole that my rats find,.

I think Keiran is a passive even timid boy out of his comfort zone, and 2 days away from home, with all the other animals, possibly cats overnight stressed him out a lot. I hope he settles down and realizes he's okay again, and becomes my happy goofy boy again, and hopefully I don't have an actual medical problem rather than psychological problem. :sad3:

 

[hopefloats]

Poor boy needs a valium.

 

[jorats]

She's looking good now. Was the thyroid removed as well?
Poor Kieran, hopefully he'll settle down soon enough.

 

[lilspaz68]

She's looking good now. Was the thyroid removed as well?
Poor Kieran, hopefully he'll settle down soon enough.

I have no idea.

Christine told me "Dr Munn doens't think it was mammary, but is thinking a thyroid tumour"...maybe the tumour sits ON the thyroid like a PT does on the pituitary gland?

Keiran is back, acting a tiny bit more like himself but not really. I put him back with his girls and hopefully by tonight Goofy Boy will have reappeared. If not I might consider new friends for him, since he seems to be very worried about Nala in his group.