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RattieLover<3

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I am rat sitting 4 ratties (2 male,2 female). They live in tiny cages not suitable for 1 adult rat and are so unhealthy. They're fed a seed mix with corn and alfalfa meal (which all they'll eat is the seeds and corn) Their teeth are white. And the boys' teeth are see through! She never spends ANY time with them AT ALL. And I know because she's sent me text saying she sick of wasting her money buying them food and bedding when she doesn't even have time for them. But she won't rehome them because she's spent too much money on them already and she'd be loosing it. Their cages were soo dirty. The hammocks I gave her forever ago look like they've never been washed. It's so sad and frustrating because there's nothing I can do. I've tried to inform her before about her cages are too small but she said she's not spending more money for a bigger cage for them (in a very not nice way) and that seed base diets are unfit because of the seed oils being high in fat and dried corn being dangerous and rats don't eat alfalfa, etc. but I just got cussed out because I was wrong because why would a store sell food saying "rats and mice" if they couldn't eat it?! There's nothing I can do and these poor rats are suffering so bad. The poor boys are so nervous and unsure but boy do they get excited to see me to get lovings and attention. It breaks my heart. When she talked about the boys you can hear the hate in her voice. She said they were like little monsters. And they're really not!! They're just scared, neglected, and unsocialized. They are so sweet with me. They warmed up to me only minutes after I spent time with them. Half the time she wants throw them out! She's message me countless time telling me I better take the rat before she kills them. :sad3: But when it actually comes to giving them to me she backs out and says she's just gonna keep them.
Now I can't take them because I'm moving to Florida in 4 weeks, flying I would need to come up with an additional $44 x 4 for the vet and $17 x 3 for the rat crates and buy another dog crate. I'd need a size 500 which is an X-Large which would cost over $100 and pay an additional close to $75-$100 for the plane ticket. I'm already paying over $800 to fly with my 5 rats and chihuahua D: I can't afford the extra expense :'(

And she had the nerve to tell me to not make them fat because she doesn't want fat rats. When I told her I wouldn't make them fat?? She told me good because my rats are fat. :'( My ratties are far from fat! They are completely healthy! Devon's a BIG boy and may look fat but he's FAR from fat. He's a very active, very muscular buck.
Her poor ratties have huge round stomaches (like they've swallowed a ball) and are very unhealthy. There's nothing I can do and it kills me inside! Tears me to pieces.
 
Gosh, what a crappy situation. I'm sorry you're in it. Your friend needs to admit her ignorance and step up and take your advice about her rats and stop being so rude when you're trying to help. If she admits she has no time for them, it is a crying shame is not willing to rehome them. What stupid, stubborness that is. She can always sell the cages if the money is her biggest concern. And if she's concerned about losing her "investment", she should consider that she'll lose them anyway when they become ill and die from the conditions in which she keeps them.

Again, I'm sorry you're in this situation. I wish I had better advice for you :(
 
temblabamomo said:
Gosh, what a crappy situation. I'm sorry you're in it. Your friend needs to admit her ignorance and step up and take your advice about her rats and stop being so rude when you're trying to help. If she admits she has no time for them, it is a crying shame is not willing to rehome them. What stupid, stubborness that is. She can always sell the cages if the money is her biggest concern. And if she's concerned about losing her "investment", she should consider that she'll lose them anyway when they become ill and die from the conditions in which she keeps them.

Again, I'm sorry you're in this situation. I wish I had better advice for you :(

I know but she a complete hopeless cause to talk to. She doesn't even care anymore. I was gonna pay her $60 for the girls on a couple occasions. I was gonna give her her cage back to sell and make some profit off of it AND give her one of my Petco Rat Manors for her boys when I moved. And she still wouldn't do it. :sad3: The whole thing just baffles me! She'd rather have them suffer and the thing is she knows what she's doing it wrong!! :gaah:
 
It sounds like some weird kind of pride and stubborness. I've seen lots of people unwilling to rehome an animal that they are neglectful towards who refuse to rehome it. They admit they have no time or no money, but insist on keeping the animal in barely passing conditions. I think to them, rehoming the animal is to admit failure on their part, and some people are so foolishly stubborn and proud that they'd let an animal live in neglect before giving them up. It doesn't make sense to me, but I see it a lot.
 
Would she give them to you, without cages, instead of paying your bill for care?
Ask now and then try to get them into a rescue.

Or rehome them and move, leaving the empting cages at her place ....
Or have the SPCA take them, explaining they were not being properly fed etc
 
I agree with SQ, rehome them and tell her they died or just leave the empty cages! She doesn't deserve them and they deserve much, much better.
 
SQ said:
Would she give them to you, without cages, instead of paying your bill for care?
Ask now and then try to get them into a rescue.

Or rehome them and move, leaving the empting cages at her place ....
Or have the SPCA take them, explaining they were not being properly fed etc

I've tried telling her she can keep the cages and try to sell the to get $ back from them. I even offered to give a larger cage. She won't budge. The spca's here don't take rats I got laughed at for even asking. They're not an adoptable animal and they'll just have them PTS. :sad3: She's also coming back before we move. So I wouldn't be able to rehome them and move. It seems there's nothing I can do :wallbang: And I can't just do anything because I have to think of something where I won't end up hospitalized or dead in the process. Because this girl will literally kill me. :panic:
 
Any members around that could rob you?
Have a cat? Neighbors have a cat?
Are you forgetful .... you might forget to latch the door and then they might "escape"

Of course you would apologize and offer to not charge her for your services in light of the tragedy ....

Have any large. muscular friends that love animals, own guns and don't mind hangin out at your place until you move?
 
I would reach out to PETA. Forget the SPCA... they are an absolute farce when it comes to rats.... which blows my mind since their Acronym stands for

Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals.... uh.... I guess they forgot that part of their name. :emb:

Is there anyone on the Rat Shack who lives close enough to go pilfer those kids before this woman returns?

I'll personally stuff her in her own rat cage and feed her alfalfa for the next week to see how she likes it. She sounds like an absolute THUG! :redhot:

Can you call her and say that a friend of yours, who is a rat enthusiast, has threatened to send pictures she took of the rats to the authorities and that she had best let the rats go to another home?

It almost sounds as if she is hoping to pressure you into offering her a significant sum of $$ to let the rats go.
 
I just wanted to tell you guys a few people and myself are going to try to raise the money to fly them with myself. Were gonna have a facebook page set up about the rats and have an etsy page for stuff you can buy. You could also just make monetary donations. I will post more on the subject in a few. Thank you all for your concern and support. Were gonna post on The florida Rat Forum and Goosemoose Forum as well. Hopefully we can save these babies and give them a life they deserve :yogie:
 
RattieLover<3 said:
I just wanted to tell you guys a few people and myself are going to try to raise the money to fly them with myself. Were gonna have a facebook page set up about the rats and have an etsy page for stuff you can buy. You could also just make monetary donations. I will post more on the subject in a few. Thank you all for your concern and support. Were gonna post on The florida Rat Forum and Goosemoose Forum as well. Hopefully we can save these babies and give them a life they deserve

AmI allowed to do that?? I dont wanna get in trouble :sad3:
 
Are you allowed to do what? Take the rats, or put out the word that donations are needed?
I don't like to encourage any kind of activity that involves taking another person's property or pets. But I admit to having done it before, when conditions were just that deplorable. You must do what you must do.
Again, where are you currently located? If you took them and could find homes before you move, it could save air fare. Your profile simply says "US", so those of us near you who might be able to help might not even know it. Do you have a total dollar amount worked up for how much money you ned to raise?
 
temblabamomo said:
Are you allowed to do what? Take the rats, or put out the word that donations are needed?
I don't like to encourage any kind of activity that involves taking another person's property or pets. But I admit to having done it before, when conditions were just that deplorable. You must do what you must do.
Again, where are you currently located? If you took them and could find homes before you move, it could save air fare. Your profile simply says "US", so those of us near you who might be able to help might not even know it. Do you have a total dollar amount worked up for how much money you ned to raise?

:yeah:

Rattielover! It is crucial that we know which state you are in because some of us may be close to you and able to help! :bunnydance:

If you are uncomfortable posting your location on an open thread, drop those you are comfortable with a private message! :hugs:
 
temblabamomo said:
Are you allowed to do what? Take the rats, or put out the word that donations are needed?
I don't like to encourage any kind of activity that involves taking another person's property or pets. But I admit to having done it before, when conditions were just that deplorable. You must do what you must do.
Again, where are you currently located? If you took them and could find homes before you move, it could save air fare. Your profile simply says "US", so those of us near you who might be able to help might not even know it. Do you have a total dollar amount worked up for how much money you ned to raise?

I was talking about putting word out about us trying to raise money. We decided not to raise the money as I am very scared and uncomfortable about the situation. This girl will really hurt me. :sad3: I am Located in NY. Are there any other members also in NY?? I'm in upstate NY like an hour north of Albany. Amsterdam, NY to be exact. And we would need to raise about $450 total. But if we didn't raise it in time all the proceeds would have been sent to a rescue and if there was any extra left over that would have been sent to a rescue as well.
This is a quote from Lori on The Rat Shack Facebook page, "Something I have learned doing the rescues is that as much as it makes us completely crazy, we have to admit that we just can't save every single one I think in this case you just have to look at the positive points--they have each other and they seem to be fairly healthy. Not every single one of my babies gets one on one attention every single day (I'd never have time to do anything then lol) but they have each other's company. And if she is insistent on keeping them then they won't end up as feeders. You just have to put good energy into the situation." And it is unfortunately true. :cry4: At least they have each other for company and love. But I am going to try my best to save the girls. They are my responsibility AND my babies. I have proof and she can try to slit my throat for them. She was never supposed to have them to begin with and never held up her end of the adoption.
 
RattieLover<3 said:
temblabamomo said:
Are you allowed to do what? Take the rats, or put out the word that donations are needed?
I don't like to encourage any kind of activity that involves taking another person's property or pets. But I admit to having done it before, when conditions were just that deplorable. You must do what you must do.
Again, where are you currently located? If you took them and could find homes before you move, it could save air fare. Your profile simply says "US", so those of us near you who might be able to help might not even know it. Do you have a total dollar amount worked up for how much money you ned to raise?

I was talking about putting word out about us trying to raise money. We decided not to raise the money as I am very scared and uncomfortable about the situation. This girl will really hurt me. :sad3: I am Located in NY. Are there any other members also in NY?? I'm in upstate NY like an hour north of Albany. Amsterdam, NY to be exact. And we would need to raise about $450 total. But if we didn't raise it in time all the proceeds would have been sent to a rescue and if there was any extra left over that would have been sent to a rescue as well.
This is a quote from Lori on The Rat Shack Facebook page, "Something I have learned doing the rescues is that as much as it makes us completely crazy, we have to admit that we just can't save every single one I think in this case you just have to look at the positive points--they have each other and they seem to be fairly healthy. Not every single one of my babies gets one on one attention every single day (I'd never have time to do anything then lol) but they have each other's company. And if she is insistent on keeping them then they won't end up as feeders. You just have to put good energy into the situation." And it is unfortunately true. :cry4: At least they have each other for company and love. But I am going to try my best to save the girls. They are my responsibility AND my babies. I have proof and she can try to slit my throat for them. She was never supposed to have them to begin with and never held up her end of the adoption.

You adopted them out to her with a contract... which she did not honor. As far as I know, you have every right to reclaim the rats. Especially if you have her signature on an adoption form. Any exotic animal vet will confirm that rats are NOT supposed to have WHITE TEETH!!! I would drop kick that biotch into the Hudson! :redhot:

I can't get up to New York until mid-May whin I have vacation and that is too late! Do we have any Rat Shackers in New York who can help?
 
jennifervb said:
RattieLover<3 said:
temblabamomo said:
Are you allowed to do what? Take the rats, or put out the word that donations are needed?
I don't like to encourage any kind of activity that involves taking another person's property or pets. But I admit to having done it before, when conditions were just that deplorable. You must do what you must do.
Again, where are you currently located? If you took them and could find homes before you move, it could save air fare. Your profile simply says "US", so those of us near you who might be able to help might not even know it. Do you have a total dollar amount worked up for how much money you ned to raise?

I was talking about putting word out about us trying to raise money. We decided not to raise the money as I am very scared and uncomfortable about the situation. This girl will really hurt me. :sad3: I am Located in NY. Are there any other members also in NY?? I'm in upstate NY like an hour north of Albany. Amsterdam, NY to be exact. And we would need to raise about $450 total. But if we didn't raise it in time all the proceeds would have been sent to a rescue and if there was any extra left over that would have been sent to a rescue as well.
This is a quote from Lori on The Rat Shack Facebook page, "Something I have learned doing the rescues is that as much as it makes us completely crazy, we have to admit that we just can't save every single one I think in this case you just have to look at the positive points--they have each other and they seem to be fairly healthy. Not every single one of my babies gets one on one attention every single day (I'd never have time to do anything then lol) but they have each other's company. And if she is insistent on keeping them then they won't end up as feeders. You just have to put good energy into the situation." And it is unfortunately true. :cry4: At least they have each other for company and love. But I am going to try my best to save the girls. They are my responsibility AND my babies. I have proof and she can try to slit my throat for them. She was never supposed to have them to begin with and never held up her end of the adoption.

You adopted them out to her with a contract... which she did not honor. As far as I know, you have every right to reclaim the rats. Especially if you have her signature on an adoption form. Any exotic animal vet will confirm that rats are NOT supposed to have WHITE TEETH!!! I would drop kick that biotch into the Hudson! :redhot:

I can't get up to New York until mid-May whin I have vacation and that is too late! Do we have any Rat Shackers in New York who can help?

Its was just a verbal contract. But I have their mother, father, sister, AND a TON of pictures of them from the day they were born up to 6 1/2 weeks. I want her to try to get them from me. She can call the cop, take me to court, I don't care. It will all just fall back on her and only make herself look stupid. The boys are a different story tho. She could get their previous owner to vouch that they are hers. And frankly at this point my girls are my main priority. I have decided she IS NOT getting my girls back. And if I can't get them money to take them I will find them a better home. I would really love to keep my babies tho. I went through so much with them and their momma the day they were born. I almost lost their mother and I had to hand delivered them otherwise none of them would be here today. I was on the phone with a vet, cutting them out of their sacks, cleaning them off with saline solution, and tying off their umbilical cords. 5 were born, 1 still born(not fully developed), 1 died the first night(not fully developed and very pale), and 3 beautiful, VERY LARGE, healthy girls. 1 is a hairless. LOL :heart:
This is their cage AFTER I cleaned it and gave them a hammock and toys.
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This is the girls eating yogurt during out time. They all got along like they've known each other forever. Left to right: Eleanor, Lilly, Naomi, and Xena
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And this one is Eleanor and Amora <3
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