Wth... Bad Breathing; Necropsy Results

[LA]

Aw Cait, I'm so sorry I just caught this thread :hugs:

 

[mercurydust]

I don't know any words right now that could possibly offer any comfort other than I am deeply sorry for your loss-and sorry for the incompitent vet that should seriously seek a new profession. Don't beat yourself up over this, these guys hide their sicknesses so well that is hard to catch anything in the beginning stages. It isn't your fault, heaven just really needed a few more angels. :hugs:

 

[lilratsy43]

He's gone. He died in my hoodie pocket... I didn't know until we got there that he was gone... If I wasn't an idiot and thought he'd be okay to wait he might still be here! But no, I got off early just to sit around for the appointment time. I should have just went as soon as I got home! He didn't deserve to go like that, so young... I love him too much to just let him go. I haven't allowed myself to think about it for more than 2 seconds at a time. I don't want to, not yet.

I'm not sure what the other one was but it was zithro and something that started with an A... A compound at any rate. Thankfully the pharmacy got back to me not long after I posted and I had them overnight it; so with our mail it should be here right around the time they were dosed with Baytril today. The people said this was a common thing they sent to rats with resp. infections... It's horrible how these reps who didn't even KNOW me or my rats showed more concern and compassion than that stupid vet! They were like "What's Izzie and Rubin's favorite flavors?" and I was like "Do what?" They meant for the compound... And they didn't charge me extra to flavor it OR overnight ship it, which is amazing.

It will work. It can't not... I'll die if it doesn't.

It was not your fault! Don't beat yourself up about it, these things creep up on us too quick. Chances are he was already too sick and you did everything in your power to save him. My heart goes out to you and your boys...I hope the best for you all.

((Hugs)) :hugs:

 

[Lina]

:sad3: Oh Cait I am so sorry to lose two so close like that, hugs and I will be praying that Izzie comes right for you :hugs:

 

[jorats]

Oh no! Has there been any changes in the last two weeks? Having two die and two more sick is very scary and could mean something is going on.

 

[Dahlas]

I can't begin to imagine how you must feel.....I am so sorry.

 

[Melissa's ZOO]

Cait, I am so, so sorry about Rubin. You love your guys so much and it is not your fault this is happening. You are doing the very best you can for them. I think Jo is right there has got to be something more going on. Is there another vet you can go to, if so I would give it a try. R.I.P. Preston and Rubin.

How is Izzie this morning? Better I hope.

 

[Moon]

Oh no babe... I can't believe it! Jo's right... you need to find out what's going on.

 

[Cait]

I made an appointment with the vet I prefer, but she can't get me in until next week, at the earliest. I hope to whatever higher being it is NOT something big and scary like Sendai... Five babies went off to Phyllis just this past Sunday. But I do have to say the baby boys, all of my girls, and Seth Rogen are all perfectly fine. You wouldn't know anyone around them were sick. It seems to be my big boys that it's hitting.

Izzie looks better, to me at least... Still eating, moving around, breathing a smidge easier. I got his first dose of the meds in him about an hour ago, as soon as I got home and saw it beat me here! He took it like a champ; I didn't have to hide it or anything, he just lapped it up as I squeezed it out of the syringe. I feel confident that he will be okay. He's bright eyed and bushy tailed.

Andi, on the other hand, is not fairing as well. While he's not clicking, his breathing is awful and he's just... there. He is very still. He won't eat, he won't drink anything... I didn't want to force the meds down him because I didn't want him to breathe it in, but I put some on his mouth and watched him lick it off, and I did that until he got the whole dose. But I am preparing for the worst, and am keeping him near.

Denny is normal, normal as he can be for Denny, but he seems more subdued. IDK if that's because I always catch them when it's early and they're sleeping, or what, but his breathing is fine, and once he wakes up all the way he's normal Denny.

Tip is about on the same level as Izzie. Drinking, eating, not too bad of breathing. I dosed him as well, and hopefully he will be okay... He didn't show any signs until late last night.

The only changes I can think of would be Isobel, Seth Rogen, and a new boy, but he's in QT at the same place Isobel is; neither of them have been in the house and I always change and shower after I come home from over there. Seth Rogen has been here, of course, but my aunt had him for about 3 weeks before she brought him here and her two at home are healthy as can be.

Moon said something in chat last night that made sense to me, was that a different strain of myco was brought in. Via Seth Rogen. But Rubin, Bob, and Janie are from the same area... Although that doesn't mean they had that exact strain as Seth Rogen or whoever does. :/

I'm calling the vet on pay day to get him to write another prescription for more meds, since I'm dosing one more rat than I intended (it was intended for two). He told me he'd do that for me if I suspected more were getting sick. At least he's good for drugs if nothing else.

 

[henry's_mum]

Cait, i'm SO sorry hun...
:hugs: :hugs: :hugs:

I REALLY hope your guys pull through this, you LOVE them to bits...

*crossing my fingers*

 

[Cait]

you LOVE them to bits...

A grand understatement... I can't believe this is happening.

I was playing with the others earlier and reached in Preston's spot for him to give him his cuddles... And he wasn't there. I forgot he wouldn't be. I bawled for a good hour. Just like last night when I held Rubin for two hours. We cuddled as I cried and petted him, until he went. Just like I know I will do for Andi tonight. He's struggling more, and he's starting to look panicky because he can't get air.

I cried all day at work. Which is a bad place to cry, because all of the residents (I work in an independent living community for old peeps) kept asking me what was wrong, which only made things worse. But my coworker was really supportive and just kind of let me drag my butt and sniffle as we went about our work. I think I'm dehydrating.

 

[henry's_mum]

:hugs:
i'm sorry Cait...

 

[smilez_n_hugs]

omg cait my heart goes out to you :heart: ....hopefully you can figure out what caused this meanwhile my thoughts are with you and your babies :hugs:

 

[mamarat]

:hugs:

 

[jorats]

:sad3: it's so hard...

Remember that the others may go through a depression with the loss of the two, so lethargy, or lack of interest can be expected and not necessarily part of the illness for them.

 

[Melissa's ZOO]

How is everyone today? Better I hope and I hope Andi rallied and made it through the night?

 

[Cait]

Andi did not make it. If anything, I knew it was coming, and I had him with me. He let me kiss him and cry over him and cuddle with him. I let him rest on my bed and let him do his own thing, until I could tell it was time, then I picked him up again and held him and tried to comfort him. At least he wasn't alone. Afterwards I pretty much broke down so I didn't bother to update until now. Now that I'm numb, anyway.

Tip is depressed. He always hung out with Andi; that was his brother. And now his brother is gone. He won't eat for me, not even Ensure... I see him munch on blocks, and drink, but he won't take anything from me and he sleeps/rests constantly. The others are staying pretty close to him, at least Seth Rogen is. Seth Rogen was Rubin and Preston's buddy. He lost his buddies, too, and I think they're finding some sort of comfort in each other.

Izzie on the other hand, much better! I hardly notice the faster breathing, and no poryphin or anything. So that's good. He and Denny are up to their usual antics; I even saw Izzie power grooming the babies.

I got some of this Mikro Quat stuff from work, which kills the bacteria that causes the flu, and a virucide called Prevail, and cleaned all of the cages and toys. (I washed with both and then went over it with water twice and then let it air dry before adding anything back.) Got new water bottles. Tossed anything that wasn't a hard surface in their cages. Tossed the fabric they had in there instead of just washing it.

Prevail can kill HIV (within certain requirements), so I am pretty sure it'll get whatever is making it's rounds it will help at least a little.

Eventually I will post my lost boys' memorials, but it won't be tonight. I can't trust myself to look at pictures of them and not lose it. Maybe tomorrow, or sometime this weekend. But I will do it.

 

[Dahlas]

I am so very, very sorry. :sad3:

 

[LA]

Aw Cait, I'm so sorry. :sad3: :hugs:

 

[henry's_mum]

:hugs: