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TorachiKatashi

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I know I've made about a million crazy, panicky threads in the last week, so please bare with me. And I know I'm really frustrated right now, so forgive me if this comes off more as a rant than a question.

Before I even start, I know my house is not the ideal house for rats. Between other pets, and just the amount of stuff, I don't have the luxury of having a "rat-proof" room for my boys to run around freely in, so their out-time is always going to be limited to either being on my person, or a barred-off area.

The problem is that neither of these seem to be working. The only barred-off area I have available is the cardboard box their cage came in (filled with some of their toys and stuff), which is very temporary since they'll soon be big enough to jump clear of it - not that it matters, because they hate it and spend every second they're in there trying to escape, even climbing up my arms any time I sit down next to it to play with them. I started putting them in there while I clean their cage in the morning because I thought they would have more fun there than in the little carrier I have, but it seems more like a punishment than anything else. I've seen people talk about these expensive play-pens, but even if I got one here in 6-8 weeks for $300 shipping, I don't think it would matter, they would just spend the whole time in there trying to figure out how to get out. They want for nothing but to have free run of my room, which they simply can't have. It isn't an option in any way, shape, or form.

But letting them sit with me isn't working, either. You'd think that with the way they get excited to see me in the morning, run to me and scramble up my arms that they want to be with me and spend time with me, but not a chance. The first week or so was great, when they were too shy to go anywhere - they could sit on my shoulders, on my chest, in my hair for hours and just relax and have a good time. I had them out with me here for approximately ninety seconds just now before Vin made a flying leap to my computer desk and behind my monitor. I managed to catch him, but I'm none too enthusiastic about trying to have them out again, lest I never find him the next time. The days before that, I could only have them out for five, ten minutes before Oskar would start climbing to the far end of my shoulder to try to jump down to the carpet. I've never heard tell of rats who wanted to be everywhere except with their owners. I know they're new to me (they've been here since the 19th of February) and I know they're young (to my knowledge, they'll be six weeks old tomorrow), but my friend never had to deal with this. Her boy will (and did, even when he was younger) lounge around on her shoulder, take naps in her hair - she can actually relax and enjoy out-time with her rat, and not have to spend every moment tense and sick to her stomach that she's going to need to field another suicide attempt. Poor Oskar is sitting in his cage looking at me like he doesn't understand why he had to go back so soon, but at this point, I just can't trust them and I don't know how I'm supposed to give them safe out-time that they actually enjoy. I know some people let their rats loose on their couch or bed, but even if I managed to herd the other pets off into another room to do that, I can't imagine my rats, who have no problem jumping the three or so feet off my shoulder while I'm sitting down, would think twice about jumping the two feet or less from the couch or the bed.

I'm just at a loss. I can feed them to their hearts' content, change their water several times a day, spend hundreds of dollars on toys and treats and hammocks, I can pick them up and kiss them and tell them how much I love them, but it still feels like I'm failing them if I can't even have them out with me. They should be content by the time I put them back, but they're not, and I don't know what to do to fix that.
 
Why don't you put them in the bathroom with any kind of shampoos and stuff put away.

I used to use coroplast found at home depot, cabel tie it together and make a huge playpen, its like 4 feet high so they cant jump out.

Now I use my hallway with coroplast infront of the doors.

You need a big outtime space, so you can sit with them, they will love exploring you and the area around them. They alos need atleast 1 hour out a day!
 
Ratty Momma said:
Why don't you put them in the bathroom with any kind of shampoos and stuff put away.

I used to use coroplast found at home depot, cabel tie it together and make a huge playpen, its like 4 feet high so they cant jump out.

Now I use my hallway with coroplast infront of the doors.

You need a big outtime space, so you can sit with them, they will love exploring you and the area around them. They alos need atleast 1 hour out a day!

My mother isn't sure about the bathroom, there's some space behind the toilet she's afraid they might get out... I can try to lay something over it, but I don't know if they'd just dig under it anyways. I'll have to go check and see.

I can try the coroplast, but if they hate the cardboard so much, wouldn't they just hate that too? What's the point of having them out for an hour if they'd be upset and trying to escape the entire time? I guess that's the part I don't understand. It's not that I can't give them out-time, it's that they don't want the out-time I can give them. When they're in their cage, they want out, but when they're out, they're still not happy.
 
Outtime is meant for running and exploring. Not sitting on your for an hour.

If you have the coroplast, you could make a playpen as big as you would like and you MUST sit in it or they will want out of it. Put lots of toys in it and a suitable wheel.

My playpen was so big that 5 people could sit in it.

Most people here have either a room in which they can let their rats out into play or coroplast.
Whatever you have, you must supervise them at all times and interact with them.
 
Also if you make the playpen so they have access to their cage they will keep running in and out. They're so young still they do need to run around and explore and of course run back to you for a few seconds. Rub their heads and tickle them and they will come looking for more. I have coroplast, 4 feet high, wrapped around their cage and lots of toys on the floor and boxes to chew and explore. Good luck with your sweeties, things will get better.
 
I tried them in the bathroom (I have no idea what my mother was talking about, there's no hole behind the toilet...) They had a grand ol' time, especially when they realized there was this warm fleece tunnel they could run back and forth through between my back and the back of my sweater from where I was leaning against the bathtub. Oskar has apparently decided that he is still "safe" as long as he's touching his carrier, and tried to sniff every corner of the room while still keeping a toe against it.

Do they tend to get bored of being loose in the same space? I didn't bring any toys this time (I don't think they would have even noticed anyways) but I'll bring some up later. They're cuddled into their hammock for a nap now so it must have done SOMETHING for them.
 
Awesome, I'm glad you were able to use the bathroom.

So long as you change up the toys and such they are happy. I've yet to have a rat seem bored of playtime-to be honest they get nervous outside of the rat room I have because they're not familiar with it. Rats like familiarity, makes them feel safe which is huge in a prey animal.

And your boy keeping his toe on the carrier-hilarious!!
 
Thats great!

Keep switching up the toys and try to take something familar with you for smell since they are leaving their room.

Your boys would love a big silent spinner wheels, they cost $40 at pet city. It would fit in their cage as well. If you get one now they will use it for their whole lifes, but if you get it when they are bigger, they probably won't bother with it.
 

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