My old man is lonely :(

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TheRatQueen

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I am at a loss to do with my old man. He has never gotten along with any rats when I've tried to intro new ones in so I just gave up. He gets a lot of attention and pretty much lives on my couch. But lately he has been super cuddly and is starting to only eat unless I hand give it to him. His health is great minus his balance when jumping and lately he has been breathing faster (no uri).

I don't know if I should put him through the stress of attempting again to find him a mate.

Any suggestions?
 
He is 27 months. Well, the thing with my current cages, they are all a lot younger than him, he eats very slow and has an odd schedule for eating as well. They are also very rough. He is small (375 grams) and I would be worried about him getting bullied. That's what happened in the past. We actually adopted him with another rat when we got him, and that rat bullied him and wouldn't let him come out of his hammock. He wasn't eating or anything since the other rat would attack him when he would leave the hammock. I tried a younger rat with him, and holy crap...my old man would chase him around 'waving his cane at him' telling him to get off his lawn and would freak out. They are now (as we say) arch enemies. I do have one rat in a cage that loves him, but I don't want to take him out of his cage to just put him with my old man since he's been in that cage for over a year.

I didn't really want to adopt any more since I have a lot already, but I really don't know if he'll even accept an older buddy. He just always seemed to like being by himself, until now. He just seems sad. And he's a spoiled brat, trust me with that! As I said, he kinda sleeps on the couch in a huge blanket. and we're always in the living room. I don't know why he's acting so lonely. :(
 
TheRatQueen said:
If I were to get a female should she be older as well??
My first instinct was to say 'YES!', but then I started thinking about someone on the Shack putting a couple of young girls in with their older male, and he LOVED it, so......
Not a single, young female - she would need someone to play with.
 
A spayed female might very well be the best thing for him.
Do you feel like he's lonely? Living on your couch, with his humans is pretty neat I bet.
 
I am assuming he's lonely. He's very attached to me, when he hears my voice in the morning he springs out of his blanket and runs to the end of the couch to great me. When he wakes up, if I'm sitting on the couch he will jump up on my lap and do his post-wake up cleaning. He has just been extra clingy. And he hasn't lost his appetite or anything, just seems off. He usually will sleep on the couch, but he has been sitting next to my leg and just sitting there. It's just odd. So I am assuming he's lonely. I don't know what else it can be. His breathing has been faster, but I am also assuming that is with old age? Nothing else seems to be wrong with him.
 
If you decide to go the female route I definitely second that it's best to start by fostering. IMO 2 females would be ideal but sometimes that's not what a guy wants ( :giggle: ), I have a crotchety old neutered male and he will only live peacefully with and equally crotchety female. I like to call them my old married couple LOL.
 
Haha! That's great :) I laughed so hard at crotchety.

Well I found some ol' spayed females through north star rescue. I am so nervous if it doesn't work out I don't think I could handle another cage of ratters. I would really like to go the route of just adopting one.

Have many of you found that getting a female for the old men is a good idea? Is there a huge difference between males and females with character ?
 
There's some difference, but a lot of it is personality. The following descriptions are *really* general - I've heard of and personally had a lot of cases where one gender would (and has been) mistaken for the other on the basis of their personality.

Most females tend to be active, very nest-building-oriented, and more independent. Males tend to be more laid back, and can definitely be cuddlebugs.

But then, I've had a hyperactive female nester who was also an incessant shirt-diver, who was happiest when she spent four straight hours sleeping inside my shirt with me, and I've had a male who (but for his anatomical parts) was mistaken by a vet for being a female based on his behavior and body type!

It will depend a lot on the individual rats. But having companions, especially of the opposite gender (it seems to me) really energizes an oldie. Mr. Honeycomb (neutered male) was about 20-ish months old with mild HED, very depressed over losing his cagemate, when I adopted the Pips (three girls who were a bare two months old). He was so delighted by a) having company and b) having gorgeous girls to bug him and cuddle with all the time, that he acted like a 6 month old. And even though physically he began to age again (after what I swear was an improvement!), his mood remained elevated right up to his death.
 
My boy templeton would not allow rats in his group. I introduced him to my girls....easiest thing I have ever did. My boys love to sleep with my girls. My crazy girl who was a total spaz is a new girl. They have one of the best bonds I have seen in rats and most of mine are close to some others in the cage.if I could I would only do male/female intros. I hate same sex intros because they take so long for the fighting to stop.
 

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