melon_mayhem
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Okey dokey!
I love her new name it goes very well with her little Emmy's name :heart:
I love her new name it goes very well with her little Emmy's name :heart:
Lilith arrives and ....Pics Oct 19th :D
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lilspaz68
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Lilith is making noises and sneezing and is too quiet for a baby, for my liking. Her weight is the same as the last 3 times so I started her on baytril.
Then she and Emmy came out on the computer desk....
Well Lilith wanted a nice warm cuddle in the pocket of my ancient bathrobe first LOL
I so envision these 2 as my Troublemakers :cheeky:
Emmy does a pretty good dangle
Lilith took many many tries :wink2:
Then she and Emmy came out on the computer desk....
Well Lilith wanted a nice warm cuddle in the pocket of my ancient bathrobe first LOL
I so envision these 2 as my Troublemakers :cheeky:
Emmy does a pretty good dangle
Lilith took many many tries :wink2:
mamarat
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Adorable :heart: :heart:
Moon
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Awww, I like the name Peaches 
Lilith is cute too.
Lilith is cute too.
lilspaz68
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Oh oh
Poor little Lilith. What a life so far. Scooped from the feeder tank for being âtoo cute to dieâ then put with an adult male as they thought she was a male whose testes hadnât descended yet. Given to M0onkist who asked me to take her in, as she only has boys. Comes here, meets a whole new loving family, then removed from that family to be on her own in a maternity cage as of last night. :undecided:
Meet Lilith from 5 days ago, a typical skinny baby
She met her new buddy Emmy (whom I thought was the same age, I got her from a snake owner at 4 weeksâ¦she also survived living in the snake tank)
Her first belly pic
And now last night :/
And Emmy for comparison
I keep apologizing to her wee little body for this. I am praying for a reabsorption but not holding my breath. :doh:
Poor little Lilith. What a life so far. Scooped from the feeder tank for being âtoo cute to dieâ then put with an adult male as they thought she was a male whose testes hadnât descended yet. Given to M0onkist who asked me to take her in, as she only has boys. Comes here, meets a whole new loving family, then removed from that family to be on her own in a maternity cage as of last night. :undecided:
Meet Lilith from 5 days ago, a typical skinny baby
She met her new buddy Emmy (whom I thought was the same age, I got her from a snake owner at 4 weeksâ¦she also survived living in the snake tank)
Her first belly pic
And now last night :/
And Emmy for comparison
I keep apologizing to her wee little body for this. I am praying for a reabsorption but not holding my breath. :doh:
henry's_mum
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:redhot:
this is SO upsetting. Pet stores upset me, common, even Cole can tell you why boys and girls shouldn't live together until they visit the doctor!
If a 3 year can grasp this WHY can't some adults???
Sweet baby girl, her life will get better, keep telling her that I suppose.
That poor body.
this is SO upsetting. Pet stores upset me, common, even Cole can tell you why boys and girls shouldn't live together until they visit the doctor!
If a 3 year can grasp this WHY can't some adults???
Sweet baby girl, her life will get better, keep telling her that I suppose.
That poor body.
jorats
Loving rats since 2002.
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LA
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It's not fair!!! She has no business being pregnant. What a little sweetheart.
Hanwellrats
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Awe...the poor little soul. Hopefully she'll have a small litter. She is so pretty.
sausage4ever
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Lets hope she just chunked up from eating too much...
M0onkist
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Okay - Lilith's babies' Daddy is definitely a hooded, definitely normal eared, and definitely normally-coated.
I'm not 100% sure, but I *think* he might have ruby eyes. His coat... I can't say it's beige really, since beige is warm. He's more like a cool birch, and it looks as if that's more the tip of the hairs near his head than right at the skin (that seemed to be lighter).
WARNING: You will want to scream, reading this post. :rant: :rant: :rant:
Frankly, I'm ready to call the Toronto Star about this.
I went to the pet store today after my orthodontist appointment to fix my retainer. I was ready to vomit just walking INTO the pet store - I'm mad enough about Lilith being pregnant!
Spied the manager, pulled her over. Told her (through gritted teeth) that the MALE rat they gave me was a FEMALE, and PREGNANT.
SHE said: "Oh, you can't tell the gender of the babies that young."
Me, after I scraped my jaw up off the floor: "YES YOU CAN. Would you like me to teach you?" (not really a question)
HER: "Okay." Much hunting around for keys. Finally produces them, and hands me a baby who HAS to be five weeks, and very likely less. "It's six weeks old."
ME, trying to keep calm: "No, it isn't. It's five weeks old IF that."
HER: "Okay." Starting to look annoyed. (this is the store manager)
ME: "They're fertile at 5 weeks of age. And gestation is 21 days." I sex baby (female, who is in with another baby female, again, 5 weeks IF that - wasn't given chance to sex adult in with them, but I think it's a girl)
ME: "I need to see the daddy, to gauge his color to make sure there are no lethal genes in the mix."
HER: "Okay." Patience running out, wakes up Dad and hands him over.
ME, pointing to goolies which are, as with all male rats, HUGE: "See that? Those are goolies, or testicles. This one is very definitely a boy."
HER: "Okay."
ME: "I'm trying to help you here. My concern is not that I wound up taking home a girl who's pregnant, because I(Shelagh) know how to take care of babies. But what if this happens with a 12 year old, and they wake up one morning to find little pink things in the cage with their 'male'?"
:rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: See below...
HER: "I see. WE DON'T GUARANTEE THE SEX OF ANY OF OUR ANIMALS."
ME: "You DO guarantee their health. It takes SO little effort to sex rats, and I really think you should prevent these unwanted pregnancies from happening whenever possible."
HER: "Okay." thinking: if I keep saying 'okay', she'll go away quicker!
~~~***~~~***~~~
Finally I leave, shaking with rage, ready to scream and to commit various felonies. There's no getting through to a person like that, but I tried my absolute best, I swear.
So what do y'all think? Should I call the Toronto Star to have them publicize about these utterly heinous practices?
This particular store is situated perfectly to attract a MAXIMUM of school-age kids (it's within walking distance of at least 2 public schools and 1 private school, as well as being on the subway and at a major bus intersection).
Stores like THESE are why Toronto is OVERFLOWING with unwanted pet rats!!!!
::screams for real::
I'm not 100% sure, but I *think* he might have ruby eyes. His coat... I can't say it's beige really, since beige is warm. He's more like a cool birch, and it looks as if that's more the tip of the hairs near his head than right at the skin (that seemed to be lighter).
WARNING: You will want to scream, reading this post. :rant: :rant: :rant:
Frankly, I'm ready to call the Toronto Star about this.
I went to the pet store today after my orthodontist appointment to fix my retainer. I was ready to vomit just walking INTO the pet store - I'm mad enough about Lilith being pregnant!
Spied the manager, pulled her over. Told her (through gritted teeth) that the MALE rat they gave me was a FEMALE, and PREGNANT.
SHE said: "Oh, you can't tell the gender of the babies that young."
Me, after I scraped my jaw up off the floor: "YES YOU CAN. Would you like me to teach you?" (not really a question)
HER: "Okay." Much hunting around for keys. Finally produces them, and hands me a baby who HAS to be five weeks, and very likely less. "It's six weeks old."
ME, trying to keep calm: "No, it isn't. It's five weeks old IF that."
HER: "Okay." Starting to look annoyed. (this is the store manager)
ME: "They're fertile at 5 weeks of age. And gestation is 21 days." I sex baby (female, who is in with another baby female, again, 5 weeks IF that - wasn't given chance to sex adult in with them, but I think it's a girl)
ME: "I need to see the daddy, to gauge his color to make sure there are no lethal genes in the mix."
HER: "Okay." Patience running out, wakes up Dad and hands him over.
ME, pointing to goolies which are, as with all male rats, HUGE: "See that? Those are goolies, or testicles. This one is very definitely a boy."
HER: "Okay."
ME: "I'm trying to help you here. My concern is not that I wound up taking home a girl who's pregnant, because I(Shelagh) know how to take care of babies. But what if this happens with a 12 year old, and they wake up one morning to find little pink things in the cage with their 'male'?"
:rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: See below...
HER: "I see. WE DON'T GUARANTEE THE SEX OF ANY OF OUR ANIMALS."
ME: "You DO guarantee their health. It takes SO little effort to sex rats, and I really think you should prevent these unwanted pregnancies from happening whenever possible."
HER: "Okay." thinking: if I keep saying 'okay', she'll go away quicker!
~~~***~~~***~~~
Finally I leave, shaking with rage, ready to scream and to commit various felonies. There's no getting through to a person like that, but I tried my absolute best, I swear.
So what do y'all think? Should I call the Toronto Star to have them publicize about these utterly heinous practices?
This particular store is situated perfectly to attract a MAXIMUM of school-age kids (it's within walking distance of at least 2 public schools and 1 private school, as well as being on the subway and at a major bus intersection).
Stores like THESE are why Toronto is OVERFLOWING with unwanted pet rats!!!!
::screams for real::
lilspaz68
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The Toronto Star won't even take your call hun. Its only the Rat Friendly world who is shocked and angry, the rest don't care. Its "just rats"... to them, :sad3:
M0onkist
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::sighs:: Thanks for asking, Zooy - means a lot.
I'm gonna write a letter to the head office of PJ's - for what good it will do.
I'm gonna write a letter to the head office of PJ's - for what good it will do.
Godmother
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Poor sweet Lilith. Can she still have some play times with her new family?
How much does she weigh now? Lots of kisses and banana mash to her. :heart:
How much does she weigh now? Lots of kisses and banana mash to her. :heart:
fenshae
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Is an e-spay out of the question?
She's a little cutie, though. And pet stores....ayy, pet stores. :redhot:
She's a little cutie, though. And pet stores....ayy, pet stores. :redhot:
Cigar
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Another pregnancy that could have easily been avoided.. What a shame. Lillith is a beautiful little girl, I hope that everything goes smoothly.
Pet stores will say anything to make you get out. In Kitchener there was a store I went into while visiting a friend. They had a lone male at the dark back of the store and I tried talking to them about it but they were so ignorant that I left raging mad. He was the "store pet" as well as a 20lb rabbit in a tiny dog exercise pen on the hard cement floor with no hut.
Pet stores will say anything to make you get out. In Kitchener there was a store I went into while visiting a friend. They had a lone male at the dark back of the store and I tried talking to them about it but they were so ignorant that I left raging mad. He was the "store pet" as well as a 20lb rabbit in a tiny dog exercise pen on the hard cement floor with no hut.
mamarat
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The poor baby having babies. So sad. :sad3:
