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Okay so today has been a little different for the morning intro. There was a little bit of pining, bum sniffing, and even a little bit of nose ofs and power grooming. Im assuming this is normal since they need to have a pecking order, but it sure does scare me. And its mostly between Teddy & Bambi. I will be adding pictures later in today =)
 
That is exactly why it is good to keep at the same place for a few days. My rats never do that the first few days. I get excited when I see the good pinning and butt sniffing that means they are on their way to accepting each other. This last group took a few days to sniff. We do long intros here usually like an hour wise. and even then it is rare they will sniff each other. Pinning is good as long as they are not biting or overly puffy when they do it. It is the little signs you have to learn. It is something they have to do in order to make their places in the group.
 
They didnt do it much, maybe three pins between Bambi & Teddy, and no one was puffy at all. Either than that i think its going good =)

But does anyone have videos/images of things i should be looking for that could mean the intro is going bad? Thanks
 
Each rat will be different. Some of my boys dont show a single sign before they bite.

John cocky again.
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The grooming was to intense, I had a feeling he would bite but i was hopeful.
[BBvideo 450,375:10mgorx9]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1REdvV_L8pE[/BBvideo:10mgorx9]

[BBvideo 450,375:10mgorx9]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJvrRDt91iY[/BBvideo:10mgorx9]

I am not sure if you can see the difference but he is stressed. He is tense you can feel it in their body.
[BBvideo 450,375:10mgorx9]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7RWhtWaFL8[/BBvideo:10mgorx9]

Templeton is another stressed boy. The tense is usually a bad sign.
[BBvideo 450,375:10mgorx9]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5RLjw8QSNU[/BBvideo:10mgorx9]

I think my templeton shows what a bad boy rat is best. He wanted to bite. You can see it. He was confindent not so much an horrible aggressive boy he didnt take anything off of any boy. It was shape up or i bite you.
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A rat in hot pursuit of another rat generally ends in a bite. A puffy boy for the entire intro or one that is slow stepping or side stepping a rat is bad. One who grooms so intensely you can tell a bite will follow. That is just the mean boys.
Templeton wasnt so aggressive but he ruled with an iron fist. If you didnt act right, he would punish.
Some rats scream during intros and freak out. They can also freeze. These guys usually get bitten because someone wants to show them that isnt acceptable behavior. Pinning and standing up is ok, as long as you see most of the action with their hands. Be happy when it is all you see.

Hopefully those show you I have had my share of horrible intros LOL
 
Thank you very much, i will try to film more then taking photos since its easier to see. Thank you for your videos and hopefully everything stays fine for my boys, though i know with in the next few months problems can show up. I will for sure take videos and images for tonight intro. =)

FROM LAST NIGHT
(This one not much happened, they just wanted to go back to their cage/explore.)

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[BBvideo:5q53af23]http://youtu.be/iyx-o7MZkj8[/BBvideo:5q53af23]

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Your intros look very good. I would think you are part of the way through and you have some good little fellas so far. Just keep doing what you are doing.
 
Amanada, your intros are looking amazing.

Peggy... OH WOW! You've captured the best sessions. Can I steal these vids to make a compilation of bullies and what to look for and how to react. The one where you grab real fast and push down, that's exactly what I've been telling people to do. And also, the interrupter in the first video, I've done that before but never put a name to it. Awesome educational stuff there.
 
Of course you can....I have tons if you need more LOL. It makes me sad and happy to see my old boys again, we lost all of them. I know you have very fond memories of those intros LOL
 
My favorite thing to do is when they are on the table. I shake it and yell "earthquake" LOL kait hates it but I am telling you when they get to stressed it builds this lets the stress out and they move on. That is why I use nahla in my intros when they are alot of boys.

Ok done hijacking your thread amanda sorry LOL
 
Its fine =) and the 'earthquake' sounds like fun. Im glad you took so many videos, im sure many of us will learn from this., I will also be doing an intro when i come back form the mall (Im in need of clothe) so hopefully everything goes as well as it has been.
 
HI, this is today's second intro with some 'toys'
(the videos are backwards, sorry)
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And of course, a rattie Bum (Bambi)

My camera froze after a while (never had seen that before) but after the pics/videos they just piled up and fell asleep/groomed each other =) So what do i do next? Keep doing this for another day+ or is there another step before the cage? Thanks
 
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First I must nominate that for RPOM...

When someone seconds it we will show you how to put it where it needs to be.


the boys look good together. You can tell they are still new to each other but they dont look mean.

Is this the common area that the original one is used to playing at?
 
It looks good. I would do a few more days, let them out on the bed, clean the cage up really well then try out a move in.

Are you able to put the cage up to the bed so they can run in and out of the cage?

I always found that helpful during move ins.
 
Thanks, i will keep on it, and yes i can get the cage close enough for that, thanks for the great idea. Now when i do the move in when they are ready, how can i tell if they are just figuring out a pecking order or actually being aggressive. thank you so much for your patience and help.
 
you can tell by the force of the grooming. Soft gentle grooms is good if they look like that stern grooming from my boy john then watch them.
 

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