Help! Rat fight?? - update 04/15, she's gone... :'(

[Moon]

I too am thinking she's not well and he is trying to "thin" the herd of sickies. Or maybe if she's not feeling so well she actually picked a fight and he ended it?? Hmm...

Glad it hasn't gotten her too down.

I know how hard it is for you to get to Dr Munn, is that who you would be taking her to? If you need a hand getting her there, I may be able to help you seeing as I have a car again. But it would depend on when you were going.

 

[Godmother]

Kisses and banana mash to dear little Molly. No wonder you were in shock, poor girl. (meaning you and Molly!)

I sure hope that she starts healing up and that you can find out what's going on with her. It's hard to be a ratty mom, isn't it? Rats have such complicated health problems.

Take care, and I am glad you've stopped blaming yourself.

 

[Bronwyn]

Gooood lord. I finally can see the pics and am amazed. Big hugs to the two of you!

 

[Shelley]

I know there is definitely something wrong with her, her breathing is awful right now, I just checked on her. I don't have a clue what is going on with her, but I know something is very wrong. I saw her eating some baby cereal at least, I was worried because of her face swelling that she might not want to eat. I don't think Pickle's would do something like this without reason - it's quite obvious to me now that there is something more severe than aging happening, and he most likely picked up on it. They were doing so great together that I don't see why else he would have reason to hurt her.

Moon - thankyou very much for the offer too, that would definitely be a great help. Getting to the vets office is quite the trip by transit and I really don't want to needlessly stress her out. I don't know yet when I can take her in, earliest will be Wed. morning unfortunately, but I have to take care of my own health as well Depending on your schedule I could always see if there is a free time where it would be possible to get a ride down there.

 

[Melissa's ZOO]

OMGOSH by the looks of her you would think it was two pit bulls going at it.

I really think there is something more going on with her, something Pickles is picking up on and he is trying to drive her out of the mischeif. It is thier natural instincts to do so in that an obvious sick family member will draw predatory attnetion to all of them.

I hope you get her to the vet soon and in the meantime give her lots of love and yummy treats for me.

P.S. my show pig in FFA her name was Pickles, I loved her and she was so smart I taught to heel, sit and stay, I never used a whip on her like the others did with their pigs I would just say "Pickles heel" and she would walk right beside me.

 

[lilspaz68]

Shel, I am soo sorry. I hope the abs help until you can get her to the vet.

 

[Shelley]

I'm home temporarily, have to go to the hospital for my appointment soon.. Molly is not doing well today, she feels cold and is lethargic, unfortunately the signs most rats give me before they leave this world... I think today might be her last day with me. Something is failing in her body, I just can't believe how fast this has progressed. I hope she's still here later so I can spend some quality time with her. I can't believe it though, I'm still in shock. :cry3: Poor Pickles, he misses Molly's company but he knew something was wrong with her. *sigh* Today is not going to be a good day. :sad3:

 

[Cityratt]

*hugs* Shelley

We'll be thinking about you guys today

 

[lilspaz68]

Shelley I am terribly sorry. Keep your little lady warm and as comfortable as you can and we will all wish her a peaceful passing if today is her day to go. :cry:

 

[bruxxy]

I'm so sorry Shelley. :sad-p:

I just hope to god she comes through and isn't suffering too much.

 

[Moon]

I just PMed you, before finishing the thread. I'm a bad, bad forumer.

*hug*

I hope your day at the hospital goes okay, and that she's feeling better when you get home.

 

[Willow Bean]

Oh Shelley... :hugs: I hope she makes it! It's too sudden for her to go... Please say she's doing better! :sad3:

 

[jujubeespmud]

Oh Shelley I'm so sorry for your girl. She does not look good to me.. does appear like she may have bad case of mites, but this wouldn't have happened over night. There seems to be something else going on too by the looks of her. I think it would definately be best for her to go to the vet. I would also not put her back with the other rat at this point in time. Hugs to her and you too!

 

[Shelley]

Molly passed away peacefully in my arms this morning around 3:45 am. I stayed up all night with her, and I can't stop crying. I've been talking briefly with one of my vet tech. friends and we think she might have had a liver disease, as some of the symptoms are there. Pickles knew something was wrong, which is why he attacked her and by the time I figured it out, it was too late. :cry3:

She's been slowly losing weight, but we were trying hard to get it back up and she was gaining, so we weren't too worried as we know some rats have trouble keeping their weight up in older age. I'll post a memorial soon, but I can't believe within just three to four days she is gone. I'm shocked, and hate how beat up she was from the fight with Pickles, it didn't feel right putting her to rest in that condition.

We miss you sweet Molly, you left us way too soon. I'm sorry we didn't know something more severe was going on with you. You were a strong willed rat who loved to cuddle. Please cuddle with Maurice and Bobo for me. :sad3:

 

[rat.charmer]

*Hug* I am so sorry.

 

[raindrop]

Shelley,
I am glad you had time with her before she passed. She was a special rat. I am sure Bobo and Maurice will have lots of cuddle time with her now. :rose3: Rest in Peace Molly.

Ann

 

[Willow Bean]

Oh Shelley.... I kept waking up all night, worried about Molly... I am unbelievably sorry that it happened so fast and that she didn't get to heal up before she passed... Dear, sweet Molly will be missed... I'm very sorry :sad3:

 

[lindsayfawn]

I am so sorry for your loss...poor little girl. But at least she's not in any pain now from the wounds. *hugs*

 

[jorats]

Molly passed away peacefully in my arms this morning around 3:45 am. I stayed up all night with her, and I can't stop crying. I've been talking briefly with one of my vet tech. friends and we think she might have had a liver disease, as some of the symptoms are there. Pickles knew something was wrong, which is why he attacked her and by the time I figured it out, it was too late. :cry3:

I'm so sorry Shel... when we first saw the pics, I talked to mamarat and she looked so much like when Jackie came to us and she was diagnosed with kidney failure. So the liver disease makes a lot of sense. There was nothing much you could do. You gave her love and that's what she needed.

 

[Shelley]

I've been spending some more time reading about liver disease, although I'm having trouble finding information about rodents or rats, there is lots about people, dogs, and cats: all which show very similar symptoms. Molly had at least 5 or 6 of these symptoms over the past few days, but only the weight loss and progressive lethargy had been noticeable before which really looked like aging. The main thing I've taken note of was how much trouble her body was having healing - things were not clotting right nor were the wounds closing up normally. When Cocoa gashed her leg it was closed up within less than a day, but Molly's gashes remained open. She was definitely compromised and weak these past few days. I'm at least glad that she is now free of pain :sad3:

This is what I found as commonly listed symptoms.

How do I know if my pet has a problem liver?
Symptoms of a problem liver can be vague especially in the early stages of liver disease. Some symptoms such as jaundice do point specifically to the liver but other symptoms could also mimic a number of other diseases. All, some, or only one of these signs may be present:

- Loss of appetite
- Chronic weight loss or wasting
- Progressive depression or lethargy
- Swollen abdomen
- Fluid retention
- Pale gray feces
- Orange urine
- Diarrhea/ soft stools
- Jaundice
- Weakness
- Confusion
- Pain associated with the abdomen
- Increased water consumption/ urination
- Convulsions or delirium in advanced disease
- Neurological signs, behavioral changes, seizures, aimless pacing or circling, head pressing.
- Rarely: Bleeding problems. Many of the proteins required for proper blood clotting are created in the liver. Remove these proteins and blood clotting decreases.