Double Neuters Double Worry - Sudden Burst of Energy??

[hopefloats]

Those complications were totally vet error. This vet is a different one. It is nerve wrecking till you get the call then your heart will pound out of your chest waiting to hear what they say but it will be better when you are home with them.

Good luck to your boys and your nerves to get you through it.

 

[Kate476]

Those complications were totally vet error. This vet is a different one. It is nerve wrecking till you get the call then your heart will pound out of your chest waiting to hear what they say but it will be better when you are home with them.

Good luck to your boys and your nerves to get you through it.

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I'll definitelly be waiting for an update tomorrow :nod: good luck! :hugs:

 

[Kate476]

*Sits down to wait patiently for update*

 

[EDK]

I just got home a few minutes ago, and have seperated Nes and Gyro out of vet recommendation so they don't chew on the operated area. Gizmo is overjoyed to see us back though, we been gone half the day and he was alone for most of it, I sorry I had to do that to him :sad3: I was worried sick for them, Gyro and Nes, the whole time. But this new vet reassured me of their practices and said they do rat neuters/tumor removals every single month. They even remembered their names soon as i came in the door and our appointment. They took one look at me and said "Gyro and Nes we've been looking forward to seeing you!" They love rats and exotics there. They even took the time to cuddle them both before their surgeries.

So here are the results: Everything according to the two vets that worked on them both TOGETHER, said everything went very well, no hiccups. The testies were easy to find, considering they were two very healthy big boys. At one point I was worried when they said 'big' i was afraid they were over weight. The vet laughed and said 'no no no, they are big, but not over weight big, they are some of the healtiest rats we've seen lately. The last rats that came in weighed a pound! Very big boys, sweet darlings had a great life, however they couldn't move around much. The guys are adorable, I don't forsee any major problems." So I picked them up and me and the vet went over what to look out for, make sure they don't chew on their incision, when the vet noticed a bit of blood dripping off Nes, not concerned but wanted to make sure, he took him to the back again, where Nes had a fit, and ripped his incision open a bit slightly. So Nes had to be put under again, and they glued him back up more firmly. I haven't been able to get pictures of their incision area, but I did get pictures of them still a bit groggy and settling in for recovery in their temperary homes. The vet gave them pain injections that'll last a good day, and antibiotics, and expects a full recovery within 5-10 days.

Here are my boys, though honestly I will not REST fully till the next morning, if they are fine in the morning and no open wounds, then I'll try to rest easier. But here they are, trying to rest after a very long day

Nes

Gyro

 

[Kate476]

Yay :happydance: I'm so happy everything went well. I'll be thinking of them & sending healing vibes your way!

 

[hopefloats]

just spoil them tonight with yummy food.

 

[Joanne]

I'm so glad everything went off without a hitch - yay boys! Heal quickly!

 

[lilspaz68]

If these 2 boys got along pre-neuter I would put them together for recovery so they aren't on their own .

I also would advise picking up infant ibuprofen just in case they seem uncomfortable after the pain meds wear off...its just better to stay on top of things rather than panic and run around trying to find the stuff later on.

Congratulations boys!!! Your mom can now relax

 

[hopefloats]

I agree too. I had all my spays/neuters done together so they have body heat to keep them warm after. They have a hard time stabilizing their body temps for the first few hours after a surgery. They need a buddy for the crappy parts too!

 

[EDK]

Things are not going well, both of them have opened up their stiches/glue incisions. I rushed Nes to the vet cause I realized he opened his up. My vet stiched him up and glued it but he's still determind to keep trying to pick at the incisions, we can't restrain him to put a corcett on him. When I get home, Gyro has done the same, and fatty tissue is hanging out! He's also begun eating it! I've tried stoping him, but I just can't! He doesn't seem to be in any pain or even notice he's got dangling fat hanging out of his former testies. All the vets are closed and my vet told me should they both open their insicions, keep them in a clean place and wait till i can get them in again...But guys, I can't stop them from chewing on their wounds...HELP!!!!!!!!!!!! :cry4:

 

[amanda1472]

From what i read around the forum and etc. I think you could do a wrap? Hopefloats made a thread on this today, and it says spays but i think its the same as a neuter, Hopefully i helped in any way. Ill send healing thoughts your way as well.

viewtopic.php?f=21&t=30750

 

[lilspaz68]

Do a wrap,. the stiffness around their abdomen will stop them picking. How big were these incision? Were you able to get any ibuprprofen just in case it is pain?

 

[hopefloats]

She calmed down and went to sleep. I dont think they are to big. I showed her mallys handy work and how it looked he next day. They dont seem to be bleeding so i think they are ok. Hopefully in the morning they are over picking at them but I dont think it is pica, but more pain. They dont seem to have the massive chewing that comes with pica.

 

[EDK]

Well this morning they are more settled, Nes reopened his stiches...AGAIN...but on close inspection, the wounds were open but clean. At this point this morning both Nes and Gyro have opened their stiching, but their wounds are open and clean, and they are just licking the dried blood off at this point. I've called the vet and explained the situation, and he said to keep putting ointment on the open area or aka jelly, and for now just keep a watch on them. Long as they don't rip it open any further, they should be able to heal up on their own, just so long there's no liquid or ooze dripping out. And he said if there's inflammation or redness that doesn't go down soon enough, then they have antibiotic ointment I can rub on them to increase the healing process.

(Pics below might be too graphic for some, viewer discression is advised)

This is a pic of Gyro's opening from last night, I couldn't get him to hold still this morning for another pic, but its currently very dry just open.

This is Nes from this morning

The blood you're seeing is dry and they are currently trying to clean it off mostly. I've dabbed them both with jelly but they seem pretty determined to lick it off. Nes is very groggy acting but he's been eating and drinking. Gyro is very active and bright eyed he only gets annoyed when I try to inspect his area but oddly he doesn't seem to bothered by it now, he grooms it a few times then leaves it be. Nes messes with his the most though. I can't tell if he's chewing on it or just trying to clean it, but he appears tired or stressed from everything last night, so i'm gonna let him be for now and keep jellying him up.

 

[Joanne]

Ug, that sucks that they won't leave their incisions alone. I hope they settle down soon.
What kind of jelly are you using? KY jelly?

 

[EDK]

its Petroleum Jelly (skin protectant)

 

[hopefloats]

that will make bad stuff stick to it. I wouldnt use it.

 

[EDK]

It's all I got and the vet recommend it as long as they are in a clean place, which they are, i made extra sure of that. But for the record my boys keep licking it off lol

 

[victoria]

I wouldn't put anything on them, especially Vaseline. KY Jelly is recommended when there is tissue that should be reinserted to prevent it from drying out but here, you want the incision site to dry out here so it can heal. If I'm not mistaken, Vaseline is not the best thing to ingest... it is petroleum based, after all.

If your concerned about infection, you can put a little saline or chlorhexidine on it twice a day.

 

[EDK]

Hmm ok I won't put jelly on anymore just let it be for now