Wesley...something neuro -- probably PT

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fenshae

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*sigh* I knew that this would be a rough year for me, and now that's true. If you count the doomed babies, I've gone from 11 rats in the house down to 7 in the expanse of like 2 months and I don't think I'm done yet. It's just SO HARD when your babies all start getting old, especially when there's bad genes in the mix.

Anyway. Patient in question now is Wesley. He's about 23 months old. A bit of backstory: he was one of two litters of babies born to a pair of escaped females that had gone feral in the local Petco (which is an awful store). The mom was killed in a trap and the orphan babies were found in a nest in the dog food aisle, along with the other litter elsewhere in the store. The babies (I think there were 18 in all) were taken home by an employee and fostered on a breeding female they had, I'm presuming as a feeder-breeder. It was at that point that they called me -- they had worked with me at a different job and knew I liked rats -- to see about rehoming. I agreed to take some babies.

Then shortly after they weaned, a large number, I think it was five, all came down with headtilt simultaneously. This was too much for her and she decided it wasn't worth it to treat all of them and dumped them back at the store as snake food. :rant:

Anyway. I managed to get him and his brother Basil out. They were about 8 weeks by that point. He's been tilty the entire time I've owned him; I took him to the vet and there was no sign of infection at all but we did put him on a full course of baytril. The head tilt never went away but he never had any balance symptoms the way that Sweeney did when HE was tilty.

So, yeah. That was September of '09. He's been astonishingly healthy ever since, except for a tendency to look dirty on one side -- the side opposite to which he tilts. I don't know if it's uneven rusting or actual dirt, but he often had a wide arc of orangeish fur. I assumed that was from him not grooming on that side on account of head tilt. I've never given him a bath for fear of stressing him out (he doesn't like being held, much less being drenched) and before now it wasn't that bad.

Recently, the discoloration has spread all over his fur. I know it's not the cage because 1.) I clean it and 2.) all the other rats are pearly white. he's also been losing weight. I didn't notice at first because he's always been very slim compared to the others. He's a very go-go-go active rat. But he's got a big frame and he's looking gaunt now, shaped more like a ferret than a rat, and he seems to have lost a lot of muscle tone. I'm trying to beef him up with lots of high-nutrient, fatty food...he gets oatmeal mixed with peanut butter, avocado slices, I'm gonna try him on eggs...

But anyway. I looked him over and I can't see anything really WRONG with him. His eyes and nose are clear. No plugs, no bumps, no scabs, no scrapes. He's acting normal enough. He still runs to the cage bars and climbs up them (although maybe not as gracefully as he once did), he eats like a horse. He's just skinnier than I'd like and dirtier. He walks flat-footed and low to the ground and just seems....tottering and old. But he shouldn't seem so old at 23 months, should he?

*sigh*

....here's a not-so-fantastic cellphone camera pic. I still haven't found batteries for the camera. Money's been insanely tight lately and camera batteries are low on my list of priorities. (please ignore my pile o'laundry in the background lol)

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I know it's hard when they all start to get old and have issues...
I don't think it has anything to do with his head tilt. Do you know if his urine is nice and clear? All over staining on his fur, makes me suspect either lots of porphyrin that he tries to clean off or that his pee has some blood in it and so covers his underside.
The weight loss, the staining on the fur... I'd say he should be on antibiotics now.
 
I honestly hadn't thought about his urine. Is there any real way to tell? I suppose I could put him somewhere with white sheets for bedding and peek in to see what color the stains are....
 
Urine looks OK.

Wesley took a quick turn downhill, though. Whatever's going on with him, I think it's probably neuro. He stumbles around like he's drunk now, gets confused when he's doing things, eats a bite of whatever he's eating and then sets it down. He doesn't hold his food and he keeps falling over and sort of resting his head on the floor looking kind of blank. He climbed up on the cage bars, then fell backwards and landed in the food bowl and just sort of laid there. If you hold him on his back, he just goes limp and lies there.

I've tried syringe-feeding him some strawberry ensure today and he lunged at the syringe, then couldn't figure out how to eat from it. I set down a dish of it and he just face-planted into it.
 
He's chowing down on some oatmeal right now. I gave him some pedialyte earlier. It's definitely starting to look like PT.

I called Calista's earlier this week. The vet's totally booked til the 27th :( I'm debating whether to try my luck again with Dr. Cook. She's twice as expensive and not nearly as knowledgeable (and much harder to convince to give you treatment if she didn't think of it herself). When I called 'em a few minutes ago they were closed so I'm not even sure what their schedule will look like (they're a smaller clinic so they tend to have longer wait times). Mer.

Dammit Wesley, why couldn't you be having heart problems so I could use all this lasix instead?
 
I'm sorry, it sounds like a PT to me too. I'm going through PT now myself and it sucks. There's no way you can be fit in sooner? Do you have Metacam to at least try until you get to the vet? It's not nearly as effective as steroids but it's something.
 
I'm gonna try Dr. Cook tomorrow and Calista's again on Monday assuming he holds out.

I don't have any metacam. I do have ibuprofen though, not sure if that would have any effect.
 

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