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Kibble

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So, Archie's got a manky bit on his neck. He's had a scab there since before I bought him. I didn't know what it was at the time, I could see a raised ruffly bit on the back of his neck when I first looked at him, but I thought that was just the way he was standing, and he was too wiggly to check closely for the first three or four days.

When I finally do get to look through his fur, it's clearly a thickened area of skin (and lots of MITES, ugh), but fur is growing through it. I thought it was healing, and just kept an eye on it. A few days later, the scab falls off and there's a big manky sore on his neck. I whisk him to the vet. She gives me some antiseptic-antibiotic-steroid cream. I apply it for five days (max reccommended time), but he's still scabby.

The area is clean and dry (not oozy, like it was before). Archie will happily let people paw at it, so it can't hurt. He seems in perfect health, apart from this gross scab. It's about 2cm square. Does a bigger wound just take longer to heal? Can I help him? I'll whip him back to the vet if he looks like he's getting any worse, but it's £35 a pop, so if there's anything else I can try, I'll happily take suggestions.

Urgh! I wish there were more good rat breeders around here. I may get a cat next time, poor Archie and Roland were clearly just scooped out of some mill or backyard breeder. All my rats have been so sweet and charming, but it doesn't seem right to support these lousy genetics...

PS, They've all been treated for mites now.
 
When our boys had mites, we treated with ivermectin and then with revolution too, as the skin issues just did not seem to go away. (btw, if you could see the buggies, they were lice, not mites - mites are microscopic. Thankfully, the same things kill both). We ended up treating with baytril for a URI, and it cleared up the skin, too. Our vet figures he gave himself a skin infection scratching at the itchy bugs, and the baytril took care of it. So, you might look into an antibiotic.
 
See, they just got neutered, so they were pumped with antibiotics for that. That's why the vet was puzzled. The neuter-scars healed up beautifully, too.

And they're much better after the spot-on. When I first searched through their coats, it was like a hideous black snowdrift of parasite-poop and scabs, and now they're lovely and clean. I'll deffo call the vet and ask about different spot-ons, in case anything has been left unexterminated.

Roland is healing just fine. He got a nip behind the ear a few days ago, and that healed in about 52 hours.
 
So, turns out, this is the best picture I can get:

ratscab.jpg


(He's got pink eyes. Odd noises spook him, and my camera makes very odd noises.)

It doesn't seem to have gotten any smaller at all, but it's not bloody or wet.
 
I'm having the same issue with Quinn, so can't wait to hear what people say. I'm posting a thread now about it
 
About five days ago, with 'Xenex Ultra for Rodents'. The active ingredient is permethrin, same as in my little niece's anti-headlice shampoo. After extensive studies on my niece, I'm forced to conclude that immunities can develop. I always treat her with three different things, three days in a row, so I'm prepared to do the same thing with my rats.
 
Also, the antibiotics used to prevent infection in the case of a neuter might not kill the buggies in skin infections. Not all Abs are created equal. =)
 
Kibble said:
About five days ago, with 'Xenex Ultra for Rodents'. The active ingredient is permethrin, same as in my little niece's anti-headlice shampoo. After extensive studies on my niece, I'm forced to conclude that immunities can develop. I always treat her with three different things, three days in a row, so I'm prepared to do the same thing with my rats.
Those aren't safe for rats, and only work for lice not mites anyway. Can you get some revolution from your vet?
 
Really? It's what the vet gave me, I've used it for about a year with no apparent ill-effects. What can it do to them? What's the active ingredient in Revolution?
 
Ah! It's called Stronghold in the UK. I'll find some as soon as I can.

Archie seems to be healing at last, though. I've been feeding him more veggies and massaging his shoulders to get the bloodflow going. He's such a lovely beastie.
 
Kibble said:
So, turns out, this is the best picture I can get:
ratscab.jpg

(He's got pink eyes. Odd noises spook him, and my camera makes very odd noises.)
It doesn't seem to have gotten any smaller at all, but it's not bloody or wet.
Such interesting coat patterns in the UK - tartan! :laugh4:
(Sorry, couldn't help myself...)
 
Joanne: :giggle:

Kibble: This link might help you a little~ http://ratguide.com/health/integumentar ... eczema.php

The rat guide has other skin issues listed as well... very helpful.

I have one rat (of 9) that has skin issues. I did get them cleared up, then they came back again... with a vengeance! I must watch her diet, trim her nails, and try to wash her paws too (I get her to walk over my enviro-friendly cleaner/water). Also, I use an ointment that we have here for our skin issues (eczema)~ Elocom. This is a non-steroidal ointment, but you could use a low % steroid cream as well. It helps our one rat.

I didn't bother treating her for mites because not one of the other rats presented with any issues.
 
My little tartan rattie!

Thanks, Smmiley. Pretty sure Archie isn't itchy, but that's an excellent site. The cream he got says it's for pyoderma, I'm looking that up now. Blargh. I hope he doesn't go all bald and scabby. I think I'll take him back to the vets and ask for a swabby wound test if it doesn't clear up in a couple of days.

I can't tell if he's getting better or not - there's a rim of nice pink skin around the scab now, but there's also a faint smear of fresh blood (nothing on the bedding, though). I'm worried that more hair is falling out around the area, although it's really hard to measure.
 

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