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Kibble

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So, Archie is an 8-month-old, neutered, pink-eyed, blonde, nervous, very small (female sized) male rat. He nips. He won't stop nipping. I've tried eeking. I've tried touching his nose and saying, "no!". I've tried giving him time-outs. I've tried giving him hours of time running around on my shoulders, and handfulls of treats. I've taken him to the vets and had his mouth examined. And yet. He nips.

He doesn't break the skin, but he does like to go for particularly soft patches, like my inner thighs where my jeans have rubbed through, or, even better, my nipples. It's hard to keep your composure and calmly discipline an animal when it's just chomped down on your ****. I wear my rat-armour of a thick wool jumper, but he's not above some furious burrowing in order to find a good patch of flesh.

It's not just me. My other two rats, Roland (his brother, hooded, black eyes) and Kiki (two-year-old female, hooded, black eyes) are absolute softy sweethearts. But Archie sometimes repeatedly nips them so vigerously that they turn on him, and he ends up with real (but not serious) bites on his flanks. No matter what anybody does, Archie just doesn't understand what he's doing wrong!

The nipping is getting to me so much that I'd take Archie to a rat sanctuary and trade him in if the three of them didn't usually get on so well. I really would. I'd box him up, go to Bristol, and say "I cannot handle this rat. Please swap him for another, maybe a really old one with no teeth."

What can I do about the nipping? Learn to enjoy pain? Get tattoos and piercings? Invest in chain mail? Only handle Archie drunk? Both get high on LSD and really connect on a spiritual level? Make a cone of paper, cut the tip off, coat the inside with honey and let him get his face stuck in it?

I feel like a completely inept rat owner, but I have tried everything and I am at my wit's end!
 
I'm sorry you feel so discouraged. :(
I have to admit I have never had a nippy rat to any great degree, although one of my girls used to get my nipples too while she was down my shirt, just for her entertainment. It was never hard enough to break the skin, but still unpleasant!
Hopefully one of the 'rat whisperers' will weigh in and give you some advice.
 
If it was me I would keep trying but at the same time come to terms with the fact that this little guy might always be nippy. I would give him the best quality life I could but respect the fact he may just not be a people rat.....He has friends....who can give it back to him or avoid him when he is in a nippy mood, food and a comfy cage......he has more then a lot of rats do.....
 
I have one here. She has been biting me and drawing blood for over a year now. I pretty much let that 315g blue beauty do as she pleases now a days. I can pick her up now but I accepted she just prefers furry rats rather than humans. I find her to have a bit of discrimination towards me. In time it has gotten better, she does better if i dont try to touch her, she is not to the point I can touch her but you really have to watch their queues on when you are getting them out of it.
 
Thank you... Archie is just making me feel like such a terrible owner. He absolutely loves being held, enjoys nothing better than making a little house out of cushions and sitting next to you on the sofa, he just CAN'T understand that NOBODY wants to be nipped! I think the poor little fella just wasn't licked enough by his mother. I don't have the heart not to pick him up, so I may just have to in some leather gauntlets and fishing waders.
 
To keep him away from those.. sensitive patches of skin, since he seems to like being down shirts, you could always put on an undershirt, or sweater when he comes out. That was he's sandwhiched between two articles of clothing and can't get to those soft spots :p
 
Kibble said:
Thank you... Archie is just making me feel like such a terrible owner. He absolutely loves being held, enjoys nothing better than making a little house out of cushions and sitting next to you on the sofa, he just CAN'T understand that NOBODY wants to be nipped! I think the poor little fella just wasn't licked enough by his mother. I don't have the heart not to pick him up, so I may just have to in some leather gauntlets and fishing waders.
I´m sorry, but that made me :lol2:
I have one of those too..
Balder is like that sometimes.. He don´t nip hard, but enough to make me jump trough the roof.. And he loooves the sensitive spots like my belly or ****s..
I might have to try that too :laugh4:
 
Oh yeah! I can so relate to what all of you are saying!! I have a wonderful girl, Skweez, and I have put her and her sister in my shirt and the little nippers get to work! It's never enough to break the skin but getting one's nipples bit, not once, but twice in a row, within milliseconds, is not pleasant, to say the least!! :shock: Seems like Teensy just walks behind her sister and does whatever Skweez does! :roll:

Skweez hates, and I mean hates being picked up, you can pet her in her cage, tousle her fur but when you start to scoop she squeals like the dickens :gaah: On the other hand Teensy loves to be picked up and cuddled...*sigh* My rats are teaching me diversity and ACCEPTANCE :nod:
 
I have a couple of nippers too. But Taz is getting better. Whenever she would bite (inside of my thighs, ouch) I would put her back in the cage for a few minutes. But since her spay she's been a lot better with me. She never nipped my husband though.
 
So I thought I should update:
We've got a handle on the nipping! Archie has been much better for about eight weeks now, even with his cagemates. I have been holding his head. Just, getting his head between my thumb and forefinger, and my whole hand around his body, and holding firmly. I first started doing that because of the advice about getting used to his nipping, so I thought I'd better just try and keep him away from my soft spots. To my astonishment, he started bruxing! I'd been handling him regularly before, but obviously not giving him the good head-squeezes he craved. Since then, I've been giving him skull-massages twice a day, and he has not taken a single confused chomp since!

The strangest thing is that this has more-or-less stopped him from nipping the others, too. I have a feeling he wasn't licked enough by his mother as a pup. But after some intensive head-rubbing, he's also learned that PEOPLE are covered in CLOTHES, and you can bite the CLOTHES as hard as you like, as long as you don't sink your teeth into the soft, fleshy PEOPLE underneath. Even better, he's also started adorably nibble-grooming my fingers, like Kiki and Roland! It's as if all his latent social skills have suddenly been unlocked.

So, I thought I had better let everyone know that I thoroughly reccomend the skull-skritching technique in baffled but basicly non-aggresive rats.
 

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