Rat Chirping Meds not helping, suggest please.

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Batgirl1979

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My approx. 4 month old rat who weighs 9 ounces has been making a chirping noise, only at night and not every night. I noticed when cleaning out their sleeping area that the paper towels looked like artillery spray. I called up the vet and took all my rats in and he listened to all their chests and said they all sounded fine but if the aforementioned rattie(Wynken) still kept up the chirping to call and he'd prescribe meds. Well it did, he also had a couple bought's of what appeared to be hiccups but I'm not quite sure. So I called the vet back and he prescribed Baytril 0.5cc every 12 hours for 10-14 days (Enrofloxacin 4MG/ML). Today is the 14th day and the amount of Porphyrin on their bedding is next to none and the chirping has been cut down by 75% but he's still making the noise twice two separate nights. I had some problems with administering it at first, as he wouldn't take it mixed with anything, so I resorted to wrapping him up like a burrito in a towel and gently shooting it in his mouth but at first most of that ended up on me. I finally found a baby food he liked to mix it with so the last couple of days have been good. I called and asked about getting more because I didn't think I'd have enough for the 14 days but now I'm wondering if I should get more and keep him on them awhile longer. What do you guys think? This is my first time dealing with medicating so I'm not sure exactly what to ask for and so on. Thank you for your time.
 
I'd definitely have him on it for another 2 weeks. It's good that you found some improvement with the lessening of the porphyrin but if you feel that he's getting worse, it would be best to ring up the vet again and ask to add Doxy to the med list.
 
That's what I was feeling, just needed a more experienced opinion. If I notice any concerning changes I will definitely ask to add the Doxy as well, thank you. I'm going to pick up more baby food for mixing, the vegetables didn't work only the fruit. Other than Oranges being a no-no is there any other fruits I should avoid?
 
If you have finicky ratties with meds, I just recently took the advice of someone on the forum to mix the meds with some cool whip and, to my surprise, they love it. :D
 
How much does he weigh?

Edit: Never mind, I missed it. He should be getting a dose closer to .64 cc's twice a day, not .05.
 
victoria said:
How much does he weigh?

Edit: Never mind, I missed it. He should be getting a dose closer to .64 cc's twice a day, not .05.

Does anyone else agree with this consensus? I only ask because I was chatting with someone on the Rat Shack Facebook page and
they said that the dosage sounded correct with the concentration being 4ml/mg. I am just trying to gather enough opinions so I can formulate
the best course of action. Should I take it upon myself to administer this(would it cause harm if overdosed by 0.14cc/is it worse to be underdosed?) or should I consult the vet and let him know that this is the dose he should be on?
 
Giving him 0.5 ml of baytril at a strength of 4mg/ml, when he weighs 255.14 g (9 oz) is almost 4 mg/ml.
A bit on the low side imo. 5mg/Ib to 10 mg/Ib would be better.

Sounds like he needs to be on baytril + doxy for 6 weeks, if it helps.
Otherwise there are other combos of meds you can try.

I use strawberry quic mixed with meds and thickened with a tiny bit of baby cereal to make meds taste good.
They think it is a wonderful treat
good luck


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We give 10 mg of baytril per 454.4 g of rat (the Rat Health Care book, http://www.ratfanclub.org).
According to an internet program, 9 oz = 255.14 g
so if giving 10 mg/Ib of baytril you would need to give 5.6 mg of baytril .... so you would need to give 1.4 ml in order to give him 5.6mg of baytril, if the strength is only 4 mg/ml

If you give only half that amount, 5 mg/Ib or 5 mg/454.4g (Rat Guide medication chart http://www.rmca.org/Articles/dchart.htm), then
since your rat is 9 oz (255.14 g) you would give him 0.06 mg of baytril.
This would be 0.7 ml of baytril

As you can see, there is variation in amount of baytril perscribed
You can discuss med dosage with your vet if you want. But what he is on may be ok.
 

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