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temblabamomo

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I know intros can sometimes take a time, especially the boys sometimes, especially intact boys. Generally I don't rush things, and I'm pretty patient about the whole process.

Quinn came to stay with us a week ago today. He's between 1 - 2 yrs, intact, sweet but shy. The past 8 months were spent in a 10 gal aquarium with no toys and no buddies in a 5th grade science glass room. I don't think it was a lot of fun for the poor little guy.

On Monday I took him in to see Dr. P for a general wellness exam, and ask her opinion about continued quarantine. Despite the tank, he seems to be in pretty good health. But over the weekend, he wasn't at all curious about exploring, he would simply sit very quietly and tensely in my lap. Friday, Sat and Sun went like this, I tried to stimulate him with food and toys, he simply sat and would eventually go to sleep. Hence the vet visit Monday; I was wondering if there was something wrong with him.

Dr. P said she thought it would be alright to forego normal quarantine and go ahead and let him meet one of my nicer boys, maybe it would get him acting a bit livelier. Otherwise she would start checking to see if he had a heart issue or something.

Obie is definitely not one of my nicer boys, but he was single before he came to me, and has remained single since. I feel awful because this is partly my fault, intros with him and my others keep going badly despite all of the wonderful advice I've received, and first financial problems postponed his neuter, and most recently a URI has Dr. P putting it off. He's into week 4 of antibiotics now and is right as rain, but Dr. P wants to finish out the meds before considering it.

On a whim/hunch/gut instinct feeling, I brought Obie out to the rec room sofa, aka the big scary neutral zone, and then brought little Quinners out. And I don't get it, because in my limited experience, intact guys who weren't raised together usually try to eat each other's faces off.

Quinn and Obie have been fine with one another since day 1. Both of them were obviously curious about the other, and Obie has tried a bit to assert his dominance (pinning Quinn and power grooming him), but they're completely friendly with one another, even the power grooming isn't bad. Quinn sort of snapped out of his trance like state and has been a lively inquisitive little fellow ever since. The two of them have been enjoying free time roaming around my room together, and have been sharing Obie's cage when I or my mother is home to keep and eye on them. Mom is home today and keeping and eye on them, I went home during my lunch break and they were snuggled together in the hammock.

Should I let them be, or slow things down? I'm concerned this whole thing went down too fast, from having their first date on Monday, to Quinn sleeping over Tuesday and Wednesday, and moving in entirely on Thursday. I'm not one to question a good thing when it happens, but in the back of my head I'm convinced this is too good to be true. My first ever rats were brothers who remained intact and also had the occasional little quarrel, but nothing I wouldn't normally expect from siblings. Quinn and Obie behave exactly the same. Both of them seem much happier than they were a week ago. So, leave them be? They're really almost too cute to separate again.
 
All rats are different :) My Sam/Dean took on Stewart like he was always with them, they nearly tore Cas apart.

Londo/Lenir/G'Kar accepted Cas, but they acted like they had to or else. They never payed him any attention but never started fights with him or tried to dominate him. But on the same page, Londo/Lenir/G'Kar took Ash and Loki into their cage no problem, and snuggle with them every night. Ash was actually the one to care for G'Kar. All are intact boys from 6mth-20mth.

I would leave them be, and pat yourself on the back hun. If they are doing fine for a night or two, chances are they may have squabbles but they are good to live together :)
 
Well it would be 7 different shades of Awesome if they'll stay friendly and grow closer. Obie is the one who's always trying to pick a fight with my other boys and then turning tail to run when they retaliate, but he only gave Quinn a minimal once over to check him out upon meeting, and never once tried to fight. My hunch was that shy little Quinn doesn't have an aggressive bone in his body, and any rat with a lick of sense would be able to sense that about him. And that's sort of how it's worked out. Still going to watch them...they're spending more time snuggling today than yesterday. It will be time for cute manrat love piccys soon.
 
I would say if they are cuddled in a hammock together then they are fine together. Has there been any squabbles in the cage that you had to break up?
 
That's what I was thinking, I'm just crazy paranoid because I've NEVER had an intro go this well, ever. I haven't had to intervene in any squabbles. I've never heard a peep or a squeak out of either of them.
 
Personally, I think you're pretty much set. My guys barrel roll within 20 seconds if they don't get along. The fact that you have them together this long and they are sleeping together is perfect, they accept each other :)
 
That's great!

My first and only introduction was that quick and easy, but I was introducing and older, shy rat to two younger bonded rats.
My boyfriend and I slept in the living room the first night they were all in the cage together (only the third night the new rat was home with us! (he'd been quarantined at the ths for a while before I got him)), cause I didn't want to split them up when they looked so cozy together, but I didn't feel like I could leave them unsupervised (and I'm a really light sleeper, so with my head next to the cage, when they woke up, so did I).
 
That's fantastic :)

On a somewhat related note: I always find it funny when people talk about doing intros and such. They make me really nervous too. I was thinking about it in human terms - it would be like an aunt suddenly deciding, "Here, I found you a new friend. Now it's time for you guys to live together, sleep together, eat together, play together...!" No wonder rats get territory and anxious! I would be the same!
 

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