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lindsay hannah

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:bunnydance: I've been considering getting a rattie for a few months now, and I'm finally getting her! However, as the days approach (I'm getting her on Easter) I'm getting a little nervous about being the best owner I possibly can for my little blue baby.
I'd really appreciate any advice you could possibly give me on being a wonderful rattie mama. :)
 
I would really like to, but I'm not sure how she'd get along with another rattie. Since all the breeders I know of are at *least* 2hrs away, I'm buying her from a pet store. At the moment, she's alone in her cage/tank, do you think she'd be fine with another rat?
 
Oh please please dont buy her from a petstore. There are tons of ratties in the classifieds, or kijiji or even your local shelter/SPCA. Please dont support a petstore. And yes, rats have to live in pairs atleast unless they are one of those rats that hate other rats which is VERY rare though. Keep looking around and see what you can find.
 
PLEASE get her a friend.. trust me i got a lone rat and after to days of seeing how very sad she was i went back to the shelter to adopt her a friend,

Please try not to buy there are rats advertised for rehoming all the time and shelters aswell.
 
Yes, please don't buy from a petstore :(

My rat Kira had a litter of 13 babies last night. If you are unable to find some in a shelter or in classifieds then I would be willing to let you have a same sex pair. They will be ready in 6 weeks. You live about 5 hours from me. I would be willing to drive them to you (it would be a fun little adventure ^_^) or I could possibly get them shipped to you, but I really have no idea how that works so I'm not sure.

And it IS very important to have more than one rat of the same sex living together. If they are alone they get lonely and depressed and that can lead to sickness or in extreme cases death. I'm sure you will be a wonderful and loving rat mommy and give your baby lots of attention but no amount of human attention can replace a rattie companion :)

Good luck!
 
I agree with everybody else! I bet there are rats in need close to you. Do you have a vet close by that is knowledgeable about rats?
Also, it's a lot easier to get an already bonded pair because then you won't have to go through a 3 week quarantine and an intro process.
I assume you've already done quite a bit of reading on this forum but please read as much as you can about food, habitat, health etc.
 
If the pet store girl is young, she may take to another rat very well. She's probably very lonely in that cage.

It's true that there are SO many needy rats around, but if she's all alone at the store, she may be rather needy herself. And you've already probably fallen for her ;) So a good idea would be to adopt a couple of little girls for her to be friends with. 3 is a very good number of rats, even better than two :)
 
Everexanimate said:
Yes, please don't buy from a petstore :(

My rat Kira had a litter of 13 babies last night. If you are unable to find some in a shelter or in classifieds then I would be willing to let you have a same sex pair. They will be ready in 6 weeks. You live about 5 hours from me. I would be willing to drive them to you (it would be a fun little adventure ^_^) or I could possibly get them shipped to you, but I really have no idea how that works so I'm not sure.

And it IS very important to have more than one rat of the same sex living together. If they are alone they get lonely and depressed and that can lead to sickness or in extreme cases death. I'm sure you will be a wonderful and loving rat mommy and give your baby lots of attention but no amount of human attention can replace a rattie companion :)

Good luck!
I've actually just found out that I'm going to be able to convert an old bookshelf into a cage! I'll try to talk to my parents after the new cage is built about possible getting a couple little babies. If my Alice doesn't take to them, I'll be able to keep them separated with a trap door.

The petstore I buy from gets their ratties from a breeder down in Atlanta. Just throwing that out there. :)
 
jorats said:
How old is Alice? A lot of inexperienced people will think that baby playing is actually fighting and will separate them.
I believe she's a few months old. I'm not entirely sure.
When she was housed with another rat, she drew blood. At least, that's what I was told. I really do want to get her a buddy because the more ratties, the better.
 
pet stores are very stressful places for animal animal, but especially for rodents as they are seldom given enough space or a place to hide among other things. so if she was stressed and a strange rat was just tossed in with her without proper introduction procedures, its not surprising she would have attacked. given enough space and proper introduction procedures there is no reason to assume that she would be violent again.

it sounds like you are set for alice and i have nothing against that. i myself have gotten from pet stores in the past. i no longer do as it is frankly more convient to get from rescues. what i do suggest though is taking Everexanimate up on her offer of babies for playmates for alice. where you are just starting in the rat world you'll want some properly socialized rats to help bring alice out of her shell and for you to get the full experience of what a rat that was loved and cared for their entire lives up the point of adoption can actually be like instead of only get that love and care at the point of adoption. you may have some time getting alice to learn to like humans and trust them enough to be openly affectionate and generally just to be confident enough to be herself. most pet stores will get from mill breeders, but even the ones that take in litters from private people, being in a pet store for any great length of time can do things to their confidence and trust. pet store rats can become absolute heart rats, i'm not saying that they are a lost cause, all i'm saying is that as a general rule they take more time and patience to come into themselves. getting home raised and properly socialized rats will give you ready-made-family-rats. i'm not saying that they are more deserving of love over alice, every rat is equally deserving, but there will be less work in home-raised babies then with a pet store babe when it comes to their confidence issues.

as for other advice, always keep learning! your rats are going to teach you a lot, but only if you listen. other people's trials, and even their failures will teach you a lot, remember to learn from others. everyone is going to have an opinion and many will have different ways of doing things, there is no one right way. some things that work for their rats will not work for your rats. remember to try but to recognize when you have found something that works for you. having said that, there are still wrong things, don't endanger your rats because pine is cheaper or someone gave you a seed mix.

other then that the one most important piece of advice i can give you is to get a can and keep putting money in it. anything that you can spare, every piece of change, including those pennies that no one wants. vet bills are brutal and the worse feeling the world is not having enough to cure something simple like a mild URI and having to watch your babe getting worse and worse and worse until what started off as a simple to treat little illness kills them. simply because you didn't have the money at the right time. when you get that can don't spend any of it unless its for the vet. not for the cage, not for any toys or treats or even food, put money aside for that stuff separately. for this can it can ONLY be used for the vet and NEVER borrowed against. even when you have hundreds in there, keep putting in more. emergencies always happen when you are least prepared for it and always when the vet office is closed. sometimes you need to wake up YOUR vet, not any vet will do as rats are not cared for by all vets, and that can be very expensive. i cannot express enough how important that vet can can really be. i learned the hard way, i don't want anyone else have to go through that for something that is so preventable.

so i think that's all i can offer you right now. if you have specific questions i'm sure the forum will always be willing to help answer them. i hope i've been of help, sorry for being so long winded.
 
Twitch, that's actually quite helpful. I've always been up for a challenge when it comes to my babies, and Alice will be absolutely no different.

Since my first hamster died, I've only used Carefresh bedding. We had to learn the hard way that pine/cedar bedding is an absolute no-no. I actually already have a vet-jar set up from my gerbils because they were from a really horrible pet store and needed a lot of vet attention.

By the way, I was wondering if this would be an appropriate cage for (possibly) two female rats? Or would this cage be a better fit? I realized that the cage I bought is entirely too small and really offers no room for play.
 
Too bad you couldn't get this one:

(one section Critter Nation)
http://www.ferret.com/item/critter-nati ... lx24wx39h/

or the R685 powder coated, from http://www.martins cages.com
The Rat Retreat (R-685)
30" x 18" x 24"
3½" drop in style plastic pan
2 full levels
Ramps with small landing in between so ramp isn't steep
Front door for access to bottom level
Full flip-top lid for easy access to top level
Powder-Coated - $109.00

or The Rat Skyscraper, the martins R695, powder coated with extra large doors, from http://www.martins cages.com.
Easier to clean if you order it with a pull out tray.
If you get it, make sure it has extra large doors or else the flip top lid so it is easy to put wheels, etc into it.
30" x 18" x 36"
Three ramps
Two balconies
Full middle floor
Drop-in 3½" plastic pan
Powder-Coated - $119.00

All three of these cages are great for rats and have small bar spacing that is good for young rats or small girls.
The cages you were looking at have larger bar spacing and may be more difficult to clean, etc.
 
I wouldnt really recomend either of those cages. They both have 1" bar spacing so the girls would probably get out. The second one has really flimsy shelves and whatnot and a lot of people dont like them. I would recomend this cage:

http://www.petsmart.com/product/index.j ... Id=2753352

Not the best cage ever but better than the other 2. Or...if you REALLY wanted to spoil them and have a great, easy to clean, nice roomy home, I would go for the Critter Nation 1 level unit. Maybe someone can recommend where u should buy it.
 
Ratlover101 said:
I wouldnt really recomend either of those cages. They both have 1" bar spacing so the girls would probably get out. The second one has really flimsy shelves and whatnot and a lot of people dont like them. I would recomend this cage:

http://www.petsmart.com/product/index.j ... Id=2753352

Not the best cage ever but better than the other 2. Or...if you REALLY wanted to spoil them and have a great, easy to clean, nice roomy home, I would go for the Critter Nation 1 level unit. Maybe someone can recommend where u should buy it.

I love that cage, but I'm not sure where I could put it in my bedroom. I don't have a wide enough table. :(
 
Yay, a new rat owner! Welcome to the club. :)

Both of the cages you're considering are on my personal no-no list. Urine can accumulate in the shelves, plastic is extremely shreddable, the barspacing is too big [especially with females/babies, half inch barspacing is ideal.], and one of them doesn't have a very deep pan, which keeps bedding inside the cage.

If you're able to order online, http://www.martinscages.com/products/cages/rat/ has FANTASTIC cages. Superpet cages are hard to clean and not worth the money, in my opinion. One that I see being purchased often is the Rat Manor from Petco http://www.petco.com/product/106171/PET ... bitat.aspx and it looks pretty good. Proper barspacing, deep pan, powder coated [to prevent rusting], all around wire [nothing beats a wire cage!], and plenty of room to hang hammocks. I don't like my kids running around on the wire shelves so I bobby-pin towels down and always hang hammocks - problem solved!

The very best way to judge if the size of a cage is appopriate for your number is rats is to use a handy dandy cage calculator. I love these things.
http://www.rattycorner.com/odds/calc.shtml
http://www.huskyrat.co.uk/aboutrats/cagecalc.html
http://www.fancy-rats.co.uk/information ... alculator/
http://kristinewickstrom.homestead.com/ ... pplet.html

Do you freeze your Carefresh for 24 hours before using it? I didn't and brought mites home to my kids.. it's a very frustrating thing to deal with. ): Now I use towels to eliminate the possibility alltogether.

I think it's great that you've already had a vet jar set up for your gerbils in the past.
 

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